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Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by wolfgke on Thursday November 12, 2015 @06:54PM (#10557074)
> Except when a device gets highjacked or something by a malware or whatever then user always blames the manufacturer of the OS

In other words, a bad swimmer blames the producer of the bathing drawers for his bad swimming skills. I understand.

Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by chaz72 on Thursday November 12, 2015 @07:14PM (#10557156)
It would be ridiculous for a bad swimmer to blame the creator of his or her swimwear.

On the other hand, a bad swimmer might be pretty upset with the creators of his or her boat, if hypothetically the goal is to stay out of the water.

It's just possible that it depends on what you expect from the device when you buy it.

Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by will_pseudonym on Thursday November 12, 2015 @08:01PM (#10557346)
Except that for many users, they would GREATLY PREFER to have the RIGHT to acknowledge the risks entailed, and use the device how THEY WANT TO USE IT. They purchased a physical device, and they deserve to be able to use it how they want. This is just another example of why the DMCA needs to be dismantled.
Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by chaz72 on Thursday November 12, 2015 @08:05PM (#10557363)
I've been spending some time trying to understand this today, and I don't understand why such users don't just go buy a device they can root and take full control that way. Why blame a vendor that doesn't ship what you want? Why not just... buy what you do want?

Separately: The DMCA needs to be dismantled, absolutely.

Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by xiaoma on Thursday November 12, 2015 @08:50PM (#10557543)
There's no good alternative, except maybe the MiPhone in China. Android is pretty horrible and saddled with all kinds of Google integration.
Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by chaz72 on Thursday November 12, 2015 @09:05PM (#10557603)
Well, I agree with you there (in general I mean, I don't know the miPhone). I would love to see a truly open source handheld computer. I've thought about picking up a Firefox OS phone. I just don't think it's Apple's job to create it. That's not what they do.
Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by josteink on Friday November 13, 2015 @03:12AM (#10558583)
> Except that for many users, they would GREATLY PREFER to have the RIGHT to acknowledge the risks entailed, and use the device how THEY WANT TO USE IT.

Let's face it: These people (rightly) buy Android and Nexus devices.

Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by rarepostinlurkr on Friday November 13, 2015 @02:19AM (#10558420)
I am not sure I follow how you arrive at the conclusion that "many users" would prefer this. What platform are those users on? It appears that many users (certainly a financially measurable majority) have indicated their preferences already.
Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by usaphp on Thursday November 12, 2015 @07:30PM (#10557223)
No bad swimmer will blame a coach who did not control his swimming and let him drawn. That's the logic behind no tech skilled users. Remember how everybody was blaming apple for celebrities photos leaked, they did not blame stupid celebrities for having the same easy password for all their online accounts...
Re:f.lux for iOS is no longer available by jessaustin on Thursday November 12, 2015 @10:24PM (#10557844)
Some of those people think nothing of hiring physical security costing five or even six figures every year. They didn't also consider hiring someone to spend an hour a month administering their personal devices? I notice that I am confused...