Re:From Army of One to Band of Tweeters
by jbob2000 on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @02:11PM
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Or you know, quit doing massive military deployments with nebulous goals, requiring people to be stationed abroad for years. Obama has it right; lots of intelligence, then a small, very focused mission to act on the intelligence.
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Re:From Army of One to Band of Tweeters
by cryoshon on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @02:22PM
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Except that these small missions sprawl when they fail, and never end because they're too small. The goals are still nebulous.
We still have soldiers in Okinawa.
Re:From Army of One to Band of Tweeters
by ZanyProgrammer on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @02:41PM
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So you're implying the 1945 invasion of Okinawa was nebulous?
Re:From Army of One to Band of Tweeters
by cryoshon on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @02:48PM
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Nah, WW2 era occupations were anything but nebulously defined. Just reminding people that the US never honors its promises when it comes to withdrawal.
EDIT: I'll admit that the first Okinawa comment wasn't entirely thought out.
Re:From Army of One to Band of Tweeters
by linkregister on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @03:10PM
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I agree that WW2 era occupations were fairly nebulously-defined. However, the "US never honors its promises when it comes to withdrawal" is a gross mischaracterisation.
The U.S. military base system on Okinawa is a part of a bilateral agreement with the Japanese government. Although unpopular with Okinawans, multiple successive Tokyo governments have approved expansions to the original bases, including one this year. [1]
To my knowledge the only forcibly-held U.S. base is the one in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
[1] http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21674839-okinawa-takes-go...
Re:From Army of One to Band of Tweeters
by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:05PM
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I can't go with "never". I can't even go with "usually", unless you've got a study that lists promises of US withdrawl and which promises were kept.
But I can agree that there was, quite recently, a promise of withdrawl from Afghanistan, and even more recently, a "no we won't".