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Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by davidu on Thursday November 05, 2015 @10:28AM (#10513821)
If the banks cared they would provide either token-based API like oAuth or at the very least, a read-only password for users to give these sites that aren't fully credentialed.

Customers will always want to extract their data.

Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by amsb on Thursday November 05, 2015 @09:54PM (#10517597)
It's amazing that we can grant revokable, read-only and audited access to our social accounts, but not our bank accounts. Even though the largest aggregators operate under some level of federal supervision (via FFIEC and the OCC), there is an obviously better way. TxPush (http://txpush.org) looks like an initiative in this direction. There will likely be an ongoing need for aggregators to maintain access to laggard financial institutions and possibly to buffer load on the bank servers as consumers use more and more financially connected apps.
Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by jackgavigan on Friday November 06, 2015 @04:37AM (#10518542)
> It's amazing that we can grant revokable, read-only and audited access to our social accounts, but not our bank accounts.

The UK is moving in this direction. The ODI/Fingleton report into Data Sharing and Open Data for Banks[1] recommended creating a open banking API standard and suggested using OAuth, using Twitter as an example (see p24 of the report). Work has begun on defining the roadmap towards creating an API standard[2].

1: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/data-sharing-and-...

2: http://theodi.org/news/open-banking-working-group-uk-experts...

Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by chuckcode on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:06PM (#10514508)
Completely agree! I think it is ridiculous that financial institutions don't have a read only password for sharing with accountants, tax advisers and other programs.
Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by KirinDave on Thursday November 05, 2015 @02:05PM (#10515447)
The only way that is going to happen is if it is legally required to happen or if banks are financially incentivized to make it happen.

It's absolutely true that offering data migration services decreases bank account stickiness, and that's something everyone is terrified of doing in the finance industry. Customer acquisition costs are so high, I doubt you'd believe me if I explained them to you.

Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by jsprogrammer on Friday November 06, 2015 @02:20PM (#10521382)
>Customer acquisition costs are so high, I doubt you'd believe me if I explained them to you.

Of course we would believe you. When you use a metric like "customer acquisition costs", you can say pretty much whatever you like.

I'd rather hear something like, "We have such little deployed value at the retail level that no one wishes to contract with us unless we spend a lot of money over here (legalized entrapment codes and marketing)."

Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by KirinDave on Friday November 13, 2015 @05:13PM (#10562739)
Banks actually don't have or need a ton of law to lock in customers. They use fees and consumer apathy pretty effectively.

But if you think that even pro consumer banks like Simple had better costs, think again.

Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by theptip on Thursday November 05, 2015 @08:09PM (#10517276)
This. I've been wanting this sort of thing for ages.

It could actually be extended into a very compelling product; imagine being able to issue not only read-only tokens, but a token which authorizes the bearer to withdraw up to $100/month. Parents could issue such tokens to children for emergencies, or other such situations.

Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by imgabe on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:39PM (#10514769)
Exactly. Of course it's going to flood their servers if Mint has to crawl through the megabytes of "special offers" bs that banks bombard you with when you log in to the website. Provide a separate API that just delivers account information in a few K of JSON. Problem solved.
Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by ac29 on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:15PM (#10514578)
Mine (US) bank does just that.
Re:Big Banks Lock Horns with Personal-Finance Web Portals by sanderjd on Thursday November 05, 2015 @01:51PM (#10515335)
Which bank?