Re:Details of UK website visits 'to be stored for year'
by autonomy77 on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @10:45AM
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Plus, with the new "websites visited" retention rules - extendable at whim, there will be a permanent record, for example of that episode of Frasier that you downloaded from a Torrent site. A permanent record that is, of you "stealing something".
Re:Details of UK website visits 'to be stored for year'
by d_theorist on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @11:18AM
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>If they didn't mean to change the status quo, they wouldn't have introduced a bill.
Just strictly on this point, sometimes bills (or parts of bills) are introduced to clarify existing law. It may be a matter of subtle semantics, but this is often what is meant when it is claimed that a bill will not change the law.
Re:Details of UK website visits 'to be stored for year'
by toyg on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @11:57AM
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Well, in this case the proposed act will basically supersede the Human Rights Act, by excluding authorities from respecting its article 8 ("Right to Privacy"), under which they've been repeatedly challenged (and defeated) since Snowden's revelations. Which is really a change in law, not a clarification.
So yeah, what they really need is a change, because current law is very clear that what they do is illegal.
Re:Details of UK website visits 'to be stored for year'
by pjc50 on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @02:28PM
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No, it doesn't (and can't) supercede the HRA; there is actually no mechanism in UK law for doing that other than explicit repeal (Factortame principle).
And article 8 has an ill-specified "national security" exemption. http://ukhumanrightsblog.com/incorporated-rights/articles-in...
If they didn't mean to change the status quo, they wouldn't have introduced a bill.
As it happens, they do want to change the status quo, by making clearly acceptable for authorities to eavesdrop, something that was, er, technically illegal before, despite them doing it anyway.
So instead of punishing spooks for breaking the law, they're changing the law. Easy, innit?