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Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by usaphp on Sunday November 01, 2015 @07:23PM (#10489195)
> and Ukrainians started revolutions to win "freedom and prosperity" through eventual accession to EU.

Do you really believe that accession to EU brings "freedom and prosperity" to its counties? Looking at Greece and some other EU countries it seems quite the opposite

Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by ekianjo on Sunday November 01, 2015 @07:39PM (#10489239)
Greece largely benefited from being in the European Union long before the eurozone. They relied on free money way too much. You dont build a developed economy with olive oil and tourism.
Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by ajuc on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:59AM (#10490769)
I can only really see how it worked for m country (Poland). And basing on that evidence - yes it does. The disadvantages are minor compared to the advantages.
Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by Zigurd on Sunday November 01, 2015 @07:58PM (#10489294)
It is no need of roses. But preferable to being in the Russian sphere of influence.
Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by SanFranManDan on Sunday November 01, 2015 @08:19PM (#10489369)
To play devil's (or should I say Putin's :P ) advocate for a second, there are non-quantifiable properties of life beyond money. Russians treat their culture as sacred and would give (and have given) up a great deal to preserve it. Its still kind of hard to wrap my mind around it. The communist fought tooth and nail to try to rid the different soviet states of it, but it persevered.

There is an unquantifiable property that Russia holds dear. It can take the blows and as long as people have jobs and are fed, most are content with the life they have and unless the money comes from a Russian source (natural resources or something else), they fear that it will destroy their culture.

Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by Zigurd on Monday November 02, 2015 @12:04AM (#10490099)
Are you saying Ukrainians are Russian? Even the ones who are tend to proclaim this position from the comfort of being outside of Russia.

And I meant to write "no bed of roses."

Re:Russia and the Curse of Geography by cema on Thursday November 05, 2015 @03:46PM (#10516000)

  Russians treat their culture as sacred
I cannot even begin to understand what it means. Could you clarify please?