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Re:Busybox removes support for systemd by bigbugbag on Saturday October 31, 2015 @07:29PM (#10484680)
Well that's a good question, I'd like to have an answer to that. debian adoption of systemd was a bumpy ride to say the least, it caused a few long time contributors to resign and others to fork debian to remove systemd in a new distro called devuan.

Then again systemd gobbled other critical components such as udev, there's also gnome that made it a strict requirement, like a cancer it grows and takes over other components.

Re:Busybox removes support for systemd by XorNot on Saturday October 31, 2015 @10:00PM (#10485117)
Devuan is someone's extended tantrum and little more. Like every other rage-fork it'll die a slow death because who wants to develop on a platform founded on the premise of "why do we need to change anything? It's all working fine!"
Re:Busybox removes support for systemd by vezzy-fnord on Saturday October 31, 2015 @10:13PM (#10485152)
And yet: https://git.devuan.org/explore

They began work on a logind compatibility layer over ConsoleKit2, they're writing a NetworkManager alternative, they directly influenced and are supporting a udev alternative called vdev (which also has libudev compatibility), and a host of other things.

For a rage-fork, it's pretty impressive. They're changing a lot. It's easier to just astroturf in the corner, though, I suppose.

Re:Busybox removes support for systemd by simoncion on Sunday November 01, 2015 @05:41AM (#10486044)
> ...they directly influenced and are supporting a udev alternative called vdev...

Have you a notion as to why they're using vdev rather than eudev? What appears to be the vdev introductory blog post makes no mention of eudev.

Re:Busybox removes support for systemd by digi_owl on Monday November 02, 2015 @12:50PM (#10493584)
Possibly because vdev is a clean break, while eudev is still mostly about udev stripped from systemd.

And that stripping will be more complicated moving forward, as i recall a recent systemd release moved various bits from udev to a new systemd lib. Leaving the udev interfaces as stubs to be removed at some undetermined future date.

Re:Busybox removes support for systemd by johnny22 on Sunday November 01, 2015 @12:48AM (#10485449)
yet gnome still runs on the BSDs that have no systemd.