Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by provemewrong on Friday October 30, 2015 @10:17AM
(#10477924)
Not Gentoo?
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Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by cschep on Friday October 30, 2015 @12:48PM
(#10478920)
Arch is based on binaries so you don't have to spend hours compiling. Surely Ctrl-C is going to "win" after the 4th hour of just watching X compile! :)
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by matejn on Friday October 30, 2015 @01:14PM
(#10479073)
Does X really build for so long? It takes about half an hour on my OpenBSD install, with all the base utilities and libraries.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by mahouse on Friday October 30, 2015 @02:08PM
(#10479453)
I hope I don't have to explain it depends on the machine.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by matejn on Saturday October 31, 2015 @07:06PM
(#10484589)
Yeah, sorry. I forget I'm on an i7 now, albeit a laptop one. It could easily take 8 times that long on something like an Atom or some sort of ARM. Though I wonder how long it takes on a desktop i7 with an SSD.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by Gonzih on Friday October 30, 2015 @10:47AM
(#10478109)
arch is much shorter feedback loop I think.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by igorgue on Friday October 30, 2015 @12:31PM
(#10478803)
Gentoo is real hard, but I've heard from people the Arch install is even more painful :/
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by amyjess on Friday October 30, 2015 @02:18PM
(#10479524)
I've done both, and they're both pretty easy if you know what you're doing.
The only thing that's a bit more of a pain in the ass in Arch is mirror selection: Arch likes to use really shitty mirrors by default, and I have to waste time commenting out most of the mirrors in the file if I don't want to be stuck with <100kbps downloads, while Gentoo is a lot smarter when it comes to picking mirrors.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by quarktasche on Friday October 30, 2015 @04:42PM
(#10480416)
mv mirrorlist mirrorlist.bak
rankmirrors -n 10 mirrorlist.bak > mirrorlist
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by coldpie on Friday October 30, 2015 @01:21PM
(#10479122)
Nah. Format the disk, bootstrap your root partition, edit some config files, install your packages, done. If you know what you're doing and have a fast internet connection, you're talking about 10 minutes to a working OS. Unlike Gentoo, which has a days-long compilation step.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by krick on Friday October 30, 2015 @03:30PM
(#10480000)
You missed setting up a bootloader, which often is the most tricky part, sometimes due to some funny update in the freshest version of the ArchLinux which wasn't fixed yet. Bleeding edge and all.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by semi-extrinsic on Friday October 30, 2015 @03:57PM
(#10480165)
No, bootloader is easy:
# pacman -S syslinux
# syslinux-install_update -i -a -m
# vim /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg # ensure path to kernel etc. is correct.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by mikekchar on Friday October 30, 2015 @08:29PM
(#10481332)
The main difference between Arch and Gentoo from an installation point of view is that Arch generally doesn't include configuration in its packages. So for every package you install, you have to manually set up the config before it will work. Gentoo often has the config set up for you. In my experience, this often makes Gentoo faster to set up than Arch, even though you are building all the packages. I actually moved to Arch, though, because the lack of configuration means that there are less dependencies in Arch (if you want optional dependencies, you have to configure them yourself). For me, this made Arch a bit more flexible. You can also build all your packages by hand using the Arch Build System (ABS). The one thing from Gentoo that I wish was in Arch is the license manager. I liked the idea that it would keep track of the licenses that I agreed to and warned me if I tried to install a package with a different license.
Re:Show HN: Twitch Installs Arch Linux – A cooperative text-...
by snuxoll on Friday October 30, 2015 @12:38PM
(#10478853)
Really? I didn't find it too difficult, easily done in ~10 minutes. I mean, a Gentoo Stage 3 install is pretty easy these days as well, but I think Arch is still substantially quicker to get running.