Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by ZeroBugBounce on Thursday October 29, 2015 @05:08PM
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IMO they will do this out of necessity soon enough.
This will mean advertisers can't count exact hits to their ads (or at least would be foolish to do so) so they will probably have to employ some kind of web crawler or HIT services to randomly sample the sites who are supposed to be serving their ads to make sure they are.
But eventually the blocker technology will become much better at blocking page element ads more easily and automatically. Then I guess they will have to think of something else.
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by powvans on Thursday October 29, 2015 @06:02PM
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This could be a huge opportunity for someone like Cloudflare. They could proxy agreed upon URLs to advertising networks and everything would originate from the same domain. Advertisers would establish a business relationship w/ Cloudflare and could trust that the traffic they are receiving is more or less legitimate.
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by joosters on Thursday October 29, 2015 @05:12PM
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Analytics are different from ads. When you're running analytics on your own site, you can trust your own logs. But when you are displaying adverts, the ad buyers will likely want better proof that their ad was displayed 'n' times.
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by frik on Friday October 30, 2015 @01:45AM
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They should crawl the website x-times a day (sample) to check if you ate displaying their ads. Or release a binary blob so that you can host their ads on your server (which reports back to their ad network once per hour)
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by blumkvist on Friday October 30, 2015 @03:44AM
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Do you really think this is a feasible solution?
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by frik on Friday October 30, 2015 @05:29AM
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What are your objections?
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by blumkvist on Friday October 30, 2015 @08:42AM
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Honestly, I'm tired of pointing to people how superficial their understanding of certain topics is and how ridiculous their "solutions" sound.
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by downandout on Thursday October 29, 2015 @05:25PM
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I suggested this the last time this issue came up [1]. In the case of ads, some people are saying that it becomes a problem for advertising networks to actually verify the traffic if the connection is proxied, though I think there can be solutions developed for this given the enormous amount of money being lost. As far as analytics, this shouldn't be an issue because the primary recipient of the data is the site itself, and cheating on their own analytics would only make sense for a couple of applications (trying to sell the site based upon fraudulent analytics etc).
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by lifeisstillgood on Thursday October 29, 2015 @05:45PM
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I may be misunderstanding this but if my users download a pixel/whatever from my site not from google analytics, then google does not know anything but my server IP
Or does client side mean the user downloads JS which does some investigation and reports back?
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by civilian on Thursday October 29, 2015 @05:05PM
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Maybe the people purchasing ad space wouldn't be able to verify impressions?
Re:Ad Blockers Are Also Changing the Game for SaaS and Web D...
by frik on Friday October 30, 2015 @04:39AM
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How about static ad-pictures served from the ad-network's server? The ad network can track the impression. That's how it all began back in the nineties, and it worked fine. Everyone would be happy.
Most ads would be unblockable if you made the ads come from your domain and have them indistinguishable from your normal content in the URIs as far as I know.