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Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by franze on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:15PM (#10465272)
new (1 month old) macbook retina, 12 inch, el capitan http://replycam.com/i/Pasted_Image_28_10_15_17_10_1BE12B12.p...

fully charged battery -> 4h max ... (running mostly chrome and keynote) not really the "all day battery life" they promised (http://www.apple.com/macbook/design/)

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by MBCook on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:21PM (#10465334)
Have you tried another browser? Chrome has notoriously TERRIBLE effects on battery life on Macs.

I'm not kidding. Try Safari for two days and be amazed.

There are probably things you can do to make it better, but for whatever reason Google doesn't seem to care and ships (what I would say is effectively) broken software.

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by aaronmiler on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:22PM (#10465352)
Exactly this. Open up your battery menu, it will say Chrome is using significant energy. I've never not seen it there
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by somewheres on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:52PM (#10465644)
Gee, maybe it's because you have a million tabs open, and all of them are websites with shitty, wasteful javascript begging the CPU for useless operations to update every single tracking pixel and cookie, with up-to-the-minute anaylitics, attached to sessions that are years old, on how your eyes move over their ad banners, so that a genetic machine learning algorithm can determine which ads are most likely to convert to clicks and then sales.

Hint: It's the ad for the top 7 ways you didn't know you could get bunions, and there's a 50% chance it will convince you to buy new shoes.

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @09:29PM (#10468650)
You are being downvoted, I assume for your "over the top" tone, but your overall message is very good. User behavior is the largest determinant of battery life.

I run Firefox with NoScript, and my battery usage is always very very good. An additional benefit is that I see few ads, since they invariably rely on third-party javascript.

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by franze on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:33PM (#10465464)
89% charged, 4h calculated time http://replycam.com/i/batterylifetime_1BE12F3F.png (but in reality, it will be shorter)

yeah, chrome is in there.

but switch to safari? my thoughts a) i'm a developer, i rather like new APIs, latest HTML 5 features b) my whole company infrastructure relies on google services (and they work best in chrome, no surprise there) c) my old macbook air (2013, maverick, killed one month ago by my son with self made kombucha) had about 7h battery-life

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by MBCook on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:54PM (#10465659)
I'm not arguing you should switch to Safari (which I like) or arguing feature merits (I don't care much myself). But if you have a Mac you have Safari, so it's an easy test to run. And you will be AMAZED at the difference in battery life. It's pathetic.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by robterrell on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:56PM (#10466118)
Agreed. I stopped using Chrome at home. It was weird moving to Safari but I get much longer battery life now.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by mcintyre1994 on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:00PM (#10465712)
To be fair that's not super useful information - I've never not seen Safari there when it's being used. Definitely agree that Chrome is way worse in practice though.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by MBCook on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:12PM (#10465815)
I'm not saying Safari is 'free', I'm saying that Chrome's battery use is very disproportionately high.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by Caprinicus on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:33PM (#10465466)
Chrome also turns on the discrete GPU for seemingly no reason.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by MBCook on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:57PM (#10465678)
Matters for machines that have them (like mine) but even in integrated only machines it makes a huge dent in battery life.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by rayiner on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:26PM (#10465383)
I don't know about the MB Retina, but I get more than the advertised 9 hours on my rMBP 15" running Word and Outlook.

Your problem is probably Chrome + screen brightness. Recommended monitor brightness in an office setting is 100-150 cd/m^2. The MB gets up to 375 cd/m^2 for outside use, but inside it should be at like a 35% setting. Also, Chrome guzzles juice like there is no tomorrow--use Safari.

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by eevilspock on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:45PM (#10465580)
It would be nice if they added a per app power usage tracking feature like they have on iOS to isolate such culprits. But yes, Chrome is the worst in battery and CPU usage.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by rayiner on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @02:58PM (#10466499)
I'm pretty sure Activity Monitor had per-app power usage tracking before iOS.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by eevilspock on Thursday October 29, 2015 @05:24PM (#10474417)
thanks for reminding me.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by ianferrel on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:27PM (#10465402)
Take a look at the Energy pane of the Activity Monitor sometime.

Chrome on the Mac is very tough on the battery.

A switch to Safari increased my battery life by about 80%.

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by franze on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:40PM (#10465537)
about the energy pane http://replycam.com/i/Pasted_Image_28_10_15_17_38_1BE13189.p... what does the Avg Energy Impact number actually mean i.e.: what unit is it?
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by matthewmacleod on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:24PM (#10465375)
That does seem rather short – most reviews of the 12" Macbook seemed to indicate that 8h was an achievable runtime.

I hear that Chrome sucks up battery like nothing else though; might be worth investigating whether Safari's improved power usage is worth the tradeoff in other aspects?

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by eric_h on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:48PM (#10465608)
That would be because you're using chrome, not Safari. I have the same machine and I get 8-10 hrs, easy (and I bought it the day it was released).

Chrome is terrible for batteries.

Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by bluedino on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:22PM (#10465349)
Chrome has long been known to kill battery life, hence most Mac users sticking with Safari
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by russell_h on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:35PM (#10465491)
I don't know anybody who uses Safari, and everyone I know is a Mac user.
Re:The Nightmare of Replacing a Battery on a Mac Laptop by jpatel3 on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:15PM (#10465837)
Agree. I see when details when I click on battery life. Apps using significant energy - Chrome.