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Re:The Rise and Fall of For-Profit Schools by specialist on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:05PM (#10465192)
It isn't a money issue.

How does that money get spent?

In other words, it's a governance issue. (Also, I believe, but cannot prove, it's also a scale issue. Large districts should be split up. Would give parents more choice.)

A buddy was CFO for the local school district. Admin swallows half the budget. Real estate investments are poorly managed. Maintenance has been neglected.

Meanwhile, teachers are underpaid, no COL raises for years, student to teacher ratios continue to climb, they're adding "portables" because they ran out of class room space, special needs kids are neglected, programs are cut to the bare minimum.

Et cetera, et cetera.

Yes, we US taxpayers spend a lot education. No, we're not getting our money's worth. No, privatizing via charter schools (reducing transparency and accountability) doesn't help.

Meanwhile, our kids are screwed.

Re:The Rise and Fall of For-Profit Schools by ThomPete on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:30PM (#10465438)
They are screwed in almost any public school system but not because of money issues.

The reason why charter schools work is because parents are often more involved in their kids education. The school simply forces it.

For instance:

Readling Log. Every day we have to write which book we read with our son and what book(s) he read.

Student corrections. The students are measured everyday from Green (no corrections) to yello (some and a warning) and red (paren't gets called)

Pick-up Parents line up and the teacher tells them how the day went and if there are things they need to improve.

Just a few of the things that are forcing parent involvement.

Re:The Rise and Fall of For-Profit Schools by sethammons on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @07:02PM (#10468034)
While systemic changes can be put into place that encourage parent involvement, none of the changes you cited requires it. I think there is a high likelihood that involved parents find themselves enrolling children into some charter schools. When you have classes of students whom have involved parents, miraculously the students do better.
Re:The Rise and Fall of For-Profit Schools by ThomPete on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @07:11PM (#10468082)
You know there is a reason why parents who are interested in their childs education chooses charter schools.

But apparently miraculously when SA started in Harlem the parent who cared about their childs education appeared in perfect sync with the charter school. Before that they simply didn't exist.

I have lost track of what this discussion is about anymore. No one is saying that charter schools is the only way to do things. I was reacting to a claim that charter schools had advantages compared to public schools.

There is a very specific reason why the kids spend a long time in school btw but since you are more interested in miracles I will save that for another day.