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Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by DanBC on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @11:37AM (#10465011)
Diesel emissions kill tens of thousands of people each year.

It's probably hundreds of thousands across Europe. VW's scam has added to those deaths. VW killed far more than 150 people.

Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by LoSboccacc on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @11:59AM (#10465161)
you're way off

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-vw-pollution-footprint...

http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-estimate-the-death-to...

while pollution will affects almost everyone on earth, the cumulative effect is not that much and pollution is not a major cause for deaths to begin with

http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.wrapper.ENVHEALTH3?lang=en...

Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by DanBC on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:17PM (#10465292)
From your link:

> At present, outdoor air pollution kills in excess of 3 million people every year, and automobile exhaust is a significant part of the problem.

Are you talking about this bit?

> the harmful nitrogen oxides emitted by Volkswagen’s affected diesel vehicles – which the US Environmental Agency claims were 40 times higher than the legal level – could be responsible for as many as 106 deaths in the US between 2009 and 2015.

That's the US, where diesel is not as common as Europe.

Your link says that:

> From a global perspective, the actual death toll could be much higher.

Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by LoSboccacc on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:03PM (#10465736)
600 000 premature deaths and of the diseases caused by air pollution in the WHO European Region in 2010

http://www.euro.who.int/en/media-centre/sections/press-relea...

Some percebtage by car, of which some percentage by diesel cars, of which some are wv, of which some have defeat devices.

Edit: sorry totally misread parent post

Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by DanBC on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:05PM (#10465763)
> hundreds thousands death caused by the pollition increase from the defeating device

I didn't claim that.

Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by autobahn on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @11:42AM (#10465036)
[Citation Needed]
Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by DanBC on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @11:52AM (#10465104)
Air pollution kills 60,000 people per year: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/air-pollution...

NO2 kills about 2,600 people each year in London.

> The effects of the gas are particularly pronounced in London, where the Greater London Authority already recognises that it prematurely kills 2,600 Londoners each year;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/volksw...

Across Europe this is easily tens of thousands of people and it's easily an order of magnitude over 150.

Re:VW slumps to first quarterly loss in at least 15 years by LoSboccacc on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @12:12PM (#10465239)
NOx emission from road cars is only a percentage of air NOx > like, 34% [1]

VW market share is about 20% of that [2]

so about 4000 deaths if they polluted their fair share, but since they polluted 20% to 40% more that's about 2000/year additional deaths?

numbers are all over the place however, too many uncertainties and unmeasurable factors.

also my number doesn't come anywhere close to other estimates[3]

[1] http://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/assets/documents/reports/aqeg/nd-...

[2] http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/...

[3] http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-estimate-the-death-to...