Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by lycidas on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @01:34PM
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Chinese and Indian students in America also have the benefit of being from some of the highest socioeconomic groups in America [0]. It is more a factor of the group's average wealth rather than the fact that they are foreign.
[0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U...
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by benihana on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @02:22PM
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>It is more a factor of the group's average wealth rather than the fact that they are foreign.
How do you know that for sure? Maybe their higher average wealth is a function of their success as immigrants, not the other way around.
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by hugh4 on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @03:01PM
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Or the causation goes the other way, and they get rich because they're smart.
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by andrewbinstock on Wednesday October 28, 2015 @01:42AM
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>European students in the US vs. in Europe,
I'd like to see stats for that. I strongly doubt that's true of European students.
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by dudul on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @01:22PM
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Can you provide a source?
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by fiatmoney on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @01:25PM
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By country:
http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2012/pisa2012highlights_...
By ethnicity in the US:
http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2012/pisa2012highlights_...
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by dudul on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @03:08PM
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Thanks. I don't think it really backs your claim that
"[X] students in America do as well or better than [X] students in their home countries on any measure you'd like to name."
but it's still interesting data.
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by jsvaughan on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @01:23PM
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the learning benefit could be because of the change of scenery, not because one side is better
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by mayneack on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @01:25PM
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Or because they select for people that are able/willing to make a choice to move across the world/border.
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by mikeash on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @02:08PM
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Indeed. Shake a box of rocks for a while and you'll find the largest rocks at the top. It's not because the top makes rocks grow, or because moving to the top makes them bigger, it's simply that larger rocks move up more readily in this environment.
Re:More parents, students saying 'no' to homework
by witty_username on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @01:36PM
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Living in India, Indian schools are mostly worse than American ones—rat race, outdated curriculum, etc. (I don't think there's sex ed in schools even).
Indian and Chinese students in America do as well or better than Indian and Chinese students in their home countries on any measure you'd like to name.
For that matter the same is true of Mexican students in the US vs. in Mexico, European students in the US vs. in Europe, etc.