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Re:Stop forcing arbitrary password rules by mikeash on Saturday October 24, 2015 @09:38AM (#10443548)
There is a bank which shall remain nameless (<cough>Schwab</cough>) which not only silently truncates passwords to 8 characters, but also performs a case insensitive match.

They say they're working on fixing it but it's taking an awfully long time.

Re:Stop forcing arbitrary password rules by breischl on Saturday October 24, 2015 @10:49AM (#10443751)
Last I checked, Fidelity truncates to 10 characters, but silently converts them all to digits. They map them all to their equivalents on a typical phone keypad... so it's not even using all the digits. Talk about awful security...

Edit to add: It appears they may have fixed this misfeature. I did personally verify that you could log into their website with the phone-equivalent digits at one point, maybe a year or two ago. There's also a few forum threads about it around the net, eg https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93792#p1350...

Re:Stop forcing arbitrary password rules by Retric on Saturday October 24, 2015 @10:42AM (#10443728)
As long as you throttle login attempts short passwords are fine. EX: 6 digit pin on a debit card might seem useless, but if you only get 3 tries per day that's just not an issue.

~10-20 failed attempts per day per IP + some rules to check for multiple IP's per account and 8 lowercase letters - most common passwords is actually reasonable.

Re:Stop forcing arbitrary password rules by Estragon on Saturday October 24, 2015 @04:26PM (#10444733)
> As long as you throttle login attempts short passwords are fine.

Not if the password-hash database leaks.

Re:Stop forcing arbitrary password rules by Houshalter on Saturday October 24, 2015 @08:32PM (#10445431)
If someone has hacked into your bank, you have bigger problems than the hackers knowing your password.
Re:Stop forcing arbitrary password rules by mikeash on Saturday October 24, 2015 @12:35PM (#10444097)
I can buy that argument in general. But silently truncating is indefensible. What if I had a long password which started with my name or something, but which I believed to be secure because it had secret stuff at the end?