Re:Swarm vs. Fleet vs. Kubernetes vs. Mesos
by jacques_chester on Friday October 23, 2015 @11:53AM
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Yep. It's a PaaS, a take-it-or-take-less-than-it-and-roll-the-rest-by-hand-deal. It's very opinionated because a large part of the DNA is from app developers (Pivotal Labs) who Just Want To Focus On Writing Apps, Dammit.
I'm wildly, crazily biased because I have seen the fruits of multiple snowflake PaaSes and it is rotten. Brilliant engineers building brilliant systems that consume enormous time and effort to not do everything an off-the-shelf PaaS does serviceably already.
Rob Mee gives the analogy that everyone used to write their own ORMs. Nobody does that any more. Companies with homegrown ORMs are cursed, no matter how brilliant that ORM is. Being on a cutting edge is only a good thing if it eventually stops being the cutting edge.
Does anyone still write their own OS? Their own webserver? Their own database? Their own programming language? Yes! They do. But for 99.99% of the world's problems, delivering user value is the first priority.
> it doesn't feel like true open source in the way that both Mesos and Kubernetes do.
I'm wildly, crazily biased because I have seen the fruits of multiple snowflake PaaSes and it is rotten. Brilliant engineers building brilliant systems that consume enormous time and effort to not do everything an off-the-shelf PaaS does serviceably already.
Rob Mee gives the analogy that everyone used to write their own ORMs. Nobody does that any more. Companies with homegrown ORMs are cursed, no matter how brilliant that ORM is. Being on a cutting edge is only a good thing if it eventually stops being the cutting edge.
Does anyone still write their own OS? Their own webserver? Their own database? Their own programming language? Yes! They do. But for 99.99% of the world's problems, delivering user value is the first priority.
> it doesn't feel like true open source in the way that both Mesos and Kubernetes do.
Could you elaborate?