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Re:Clojure all the way down by jdmichal on Thursday October 22, 2015 @10:26AM (#10432400)
> The idea that you can have a language which is portable/reimplementable on any platform is fundamentally flawed. You can't.

If you can't implement C on a platform, I think you're in some pretty strange territory and you're probably having to invent your own language to match the platform.

Re:Clojure all the way down by bad_user on Thursday October 22, 2015 @11:16AM (#10432692)
You couldn't have given a better example. C as a language doesn't have a standard library, with the standard library being Win32, or whatever comes on POSIX/Unix systems these days. You even get a different libc on Android, which isn't glibc, so with its own quirks and bugs. Win32 doesn't do fork and I/O is very different. And on embedded systems you're going to work with a C subset. And each compiler has special extensions.

In other words what you call C is actually very different from platform to platform, people solving that with a crap load of ifdef statements.

Re:Clojure all the way down by jdmichal on Thursday October 22, 2015 @11:38AM (#10432819)
No, what I call C is the same on every platform. Otherwise, all those "crap load of ifdef statements" wouldn't work. What is called the C standard library on each platform is different, because as you said C itself does not define a standard library. So yes, I did pick my example very appropriately.
Re:Clojure all the way down by djpowell on Thursday October 22, 2015 @10:50AM (#10432545)
What if the platforms are the JVM and Javascript, and you are chosing those platforms because of their extensive infrastructure and libraries?

It is possible to implement C faithfully on these platforms, including all of C's weirdness like pointer-arithmetic and unsafe casting. But you'd end up with something that departs far from the platform's runtime model and calling conventions.

Re:Clojure all the way down by jdmichal on Thursday October 22, 2015 @11:43AM (#10432853)
> It is possible to implement C faithfully on these platforms, including all of C's weirdness like pointer-arithmetic and unsafe casting.

Of course it can. The two platforms you listed can both faithfully emulate an entire computer, upon which you can build your C runtime.

http://bellard.org/jslinux/

http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html

Now, if what you really meant was more along the lines of "can I faithfully cross-compile C to Java bytecode", the answer would be "not without a layer of abstraction".