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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by cryoshon on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @10:02PM (#10423160)
We all saw the GCHQ documents, and we all know there is no way to separate bulk "American" content/metadata from non-American. The government considers the most intimate affairs (LOVEINT, SEXINT, etc) as firmly their business to snoop on for the purposes of future blackmail-- it does you no favors to deny this, and puts you in a counterfactual position.

The "Main Core" intel database has dossiers on every person they could find data on. There are no distinctions between foreigners and Americans, as we saw from the Snowden docs.

We also saw from Snowden docs that the DEA among other organizations definitely (100%, utterly indisputable, look at wikipedia if you are unclear on this matter) use "parallel construction" in which the NSA passes evidence for criminal cases to the DEA, which then obfuscates the source before going to trial.

Stop shilling, either intentionally or unintentionally.

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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by PlzSnow on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @01:37AM (#10423891)
Nobody is going to engage with you if you use the word "shill". It is the rhetoric of conspiracy theorists, and debate with conspiracy theorists is not technically possible.
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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by cryoshon on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @08:54AM (#10425055)
Try replying to the points I raised. Responses like yours which essentially state "we can't discuss this issue as a group because of some social norm I don't like" really do scream out that someone doesn't want to bite into the meat of the issue.
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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by grkvlt on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @12:08AM (#10423655)
How on earth can I be an unintentional shill?

"A shill [...] publicly helps a[n] organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the organization." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by cryoshon on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @08:53AM (#10425047)
Try replying to my argument. Your OP talking points are false.
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