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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by beeboop on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @08:31PM (#10422836)
The frequency is not really relevant. It was and is legal and faced no real opposition.

>The purpose of the bulk surveillance is absolutely NOT to gather evidence against citizens.

They admit themselves they gather bulk data on everything. The intent of an organization that has proven to lie through their teeth and break the law really means nothing. Intent is also pointless, the action is what matters.

>In fact, it is used agains foreigners only for national security and intelligence purposes.

This is simply not true.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/27/nsa-employee-sp...

www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.htm

www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/08/23/bloomberg_report_nsa_employees_have_deliberately_abused_their_power.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-nsa-can-abuse-data-on-ame...

https://www.rt.com/usa/nsa-domestic-surveillance-abuse-684/

There are hundreds of resources and examples showing rampant abuse and non-security related surveillance of Americans.

edit: don't forget its use for corporate espionage: http://sputniknews.com/latam/20150707/1024322295.html

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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by grkvlt on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @08:41PM (#10422870)
The cases you are citing are all unauthorized accesses and abuses, not systematic government policy. Your argument seems to be that because a law could be broken, then it must be being broken, which is hardly useful.
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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by beeboop on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @09:46PM (#10423070)
The law can be broken, there is abundant evidence that it is broken constantly, and there is very little to no accountability when it is broken. There may as well be no law at all. The entire fucking program was illegal for years and it didn't stop them. They literally don't give a shit if what they're doing is illegal.
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Re:The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Tar... by PlzSnow on Wednesday October 21, 2015 @01:39AM (#10423895)
Your supposition that "there may as well be no laws at all" is very extreme and no credible person would support it.
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