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Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by irremediable on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @09:36AM (#10418996)
Didn't a load of workers die? In China they recently put up a skyscraper over three weeks -- admittedly one that was half the height.
Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by mhb on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @09:55AM (#10419113)
Wikipedia says five died. But that's why I mention this. Today, it is possible that no one would have died or been injured but the project would probably take ten times as long and cost ten times as much. Partly due to the modern infrastructure which seeks to minimize all risk.

The additional time and expense devoted to safety isn't without it's own costs.

Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by zeveb on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @10:41AM (#10419442)
> Today, it is possible that no one would have died or been injured but the project would probably take ten times as long and cost ten times as much.

It took eleven years for One World Trade Center to exceed the height of the Empire State Building; it took over 13 years for it to open. Granted, it's a larger, more complex building—but still, that's a remarkably long time.

Human life simply isn't priceless: it's obviously not worth $1 trillion to save a random person. Nor is it worthless: it's obviously worth 50¢ to save almost anyone. Somewhere in between, there's an economic balance. I recall reading that from numerous estimates of the value that people place on their own lives (through insurance purchases, risk ratios when pursuing various activities &c.) that we tend to value our lives at about $1.5-2 million.

A safety regulation which costs significantly more than that to save one life is, quite literally, not worth it.

Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by Retric on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @12:13PM (#10420068)
> it took over 13 years for it to open.

Construction began on One world trade Center in 2006 add 13 years and that's 2019.

Construction of below-ground utility relocations, footings, and foundations for the new building began on April 27, 2006 On May 10, 2013, the final component of the skyscraper's spire was installed, making the building, including its spire, reach a total height of 1,776 feet (541 m). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center#Plannin...

PS: Now, if you want to start the clock from the first idea we might want a new building (Sept 11, 2001) then the Empire State Building also took a lot longer than 1.5 years.

Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by 7Z7 on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @11:01AM (#10419600)
>it's obviously worth 50¢ to save almost anyone

almost?

Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by sbierwagen on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @11:12AM (#10419671)
Some individuals have negative value.
Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by GFK_of_xmaspast on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @10:17AM (#10419264)
It's easy to say things like that when it's not your corpus eighty stories up in the air.
Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by knodi123 on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @10:57AM (#10419564)
Informed consent. Tell every corpus being lobbed eighty stories in the air what the risks are, and let them make their own decisions.
Re:Scientists Who Pee Plutonium by irremediable on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @12:25PM (#10420125)
Except, if building sites are allowed to do that, it could quickly become the norm for all building sites. Suddenly, for you to get any work at all, you have no choice.