News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Government Open Source Office deal set to provide major s... by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @09:35AM (#10418989)
Assuming the consultants are UK taxpayers - the company is an international private company so taxable profits are presumably being offshored, but hopefully there's local employment of UK nationals too.

I've never understood why government wouldn't develop their own consultants for this sort of thing, governments often have highways agencies - the modern equivalent for communications would surely be an IT agency. In the UK we have a Department of Transport but we don't have a Department of ITC, the later seems as important a part of modern infrastructure.

There's got to be a lot of moral pressure internally - for those in control - in a company like Collabora to introduce bugs given they make their money on bug fixes. It seems government wide that purchasing the software as open source and training civil servants on the code would be highly effective in securing systems for future use?

Presumably the modifications to LibreOffice will be open source, SS 3, 3.1 here http://www.libreoffice.org/download/license/ appear to require it?

Re:Government Open Source Office deal set to provide major s... by chris_wot on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @10:37AM (#10419413)
I'm afraid I'm going to have to refute you quite categorically. I did two months of work for Collabora and at no point did anyone ANYWHERE ever encourage the introduction of any bugs.

In fact, I introduced a few bugs into the VCL demo tool and Michael Meeks was quite (how should I put this?) direct in his feedback to me. Those inadvertent bugs got fixed very quickly by myself.

I can assure anyone reading - Collabora only cares about good quality work, and in fact if any work is pushed into the LO git repository that is substandard the other non-Collabora devs either a. fix it immediately or revert the changes, or b. have some stern words with the Collabora dev, or (I'd imagine) to Michael or Kendy.

P.S. Eventually all code Collabora writes gets pushed into the TDF's LO git repository. Maintaining incompatible branches for any length of time in insanity, and aside from the fact that contributing back to LO is the ethos of the Collabora Productivity team, it's better for them to do so in order to allow others to help maintain and enhance the code they write.

Re:Government Open Source Office deal set to provide major s... by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @12:52PM (#10420288)
I'm not sure what you're refuting? All I did was express that in circumstances where a company sells bug fixes for considerable sums that there has to be pressure on that company to compromise their morals; if it takes a hundred months of service to a company to recover the revenue one gets from one day of bug fixing then the economics of the situation require strong moral backing. It seems there should be lower risk ways of structuring this relationship.

However, with proper external independent oversight this becomes moot, thank you for pointing out that oversight appears to be in place.

It sounds from what you say that all Collabora work is pushed to the LO git repos?

Re:Government Open Source Office deal set to provide major s... by chris_wot on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @01:54PM (#10420661)
I can only speak for the LibreOffice code, but yes, it is all pushed to the central repro.
Re:Government Open Source Office deal set to provide major s... by buovjaga on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @05:35PM (#10421973)
I am a volunteer QA team member for LibreOffice. I don't know, how you dreamt up that "moral pressure" thing, but it is completely incompatible with the project. You should not throw around accusations of tax avoidance and code sabotage so lightly.

The developers have enough old bugs to fix: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-s...

Your claim is made even more absurd by the increasing focus on catching regression bugs before they hit master: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/RegressionId...