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Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by ArkyBeagle on Monday October 19, 2015 @06:29PM (#10416243)
We don't know. There are many, many narratives.

The point is that drug policy is not targeted towards harm reduction or safety, but towards the demonization of the drugs, which means there's possible improvement if we stop doing that.

Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by johncolanduoni on Monday October 19, 2015 @07:03PM (#10416388)
This is the rub of the issue. I have a friend who works at a addiction treatment clinic (mostly heroin) whose experience has made her quite opposed to legalizing hard drugs, but she still has no love for existing public policy around drugs.
Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by uxp on Monday October 19, 2015 @09:07PM (#10416852)
I don't think there is anyone in the world with some sane common sense that _wants_ to legalize drugs like meth and heroin that have high addiction rates, but there are hundreds of thousands that see the benefit of removing the stigma around the drugs, bringing manufacture of the substances into cleaner laboratories and regulated stores. I had a friend die some years back because he shot a large dose of fentanyl into his arm thinking it was typical low to mid-range heroin. Had he bought from a regulated dealer, the likelihood of the mixup would have been significantly less and his girlfriend would have been more likely to call for emergency services sooner instead of being afraid of punishment. Junkies are gonna be junkies, but they're still human beings and they deserve some respect for being a life. Instead of pointing fingers at how awful a person they are for the choices that lead them to addiction, might we, without having some magical something that takes the addiction away forever, help reduce the harm they are doing to themselves and society?
Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by highCs on Monday October 19, 2015 @06:33PM (#10416270)
> the demonization of the drugs

It keeps the number of drug addicts low and then makes the harm and safety problem less important at the same time?

Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by ArkyBeagle on Monday October 19, 2015 @06:57PM (#10416361)
How would we know it actually does that? Somewhere between 50-90% of high school seniors in the late '70s smoked pot at least once.

The problem with demonization in general is that it requires willing suspension of disbelief, which is brittle.

Please remember also that Nixon's original WOD happened because lots of young people were coming back from 'Nam strung out.

Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by rco8786 on Monday October 19, 2015 @11:55PM (#10417327)
> lots of young people were coming back from 'Nam strung out.

It's quite possible that we saw a bunch of boys coming back "strung out" from the most psychologically damaging war in the country's history, not smoking pot.

Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by ArkyBeagle on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @10:12AM (#10419229)
The concern was over the alarming percentage on heroin.
Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by baddox on Monday October 19, 2015 @06:44PM (#10416314)
Prohibition might reduce the total number of people who have ever tried a drug, but I very highly doubt it reduces the number of people addicted to a drug. It could just as easily increase the number of addicts.
Re:Prohibition was primarily the work of one pressure group by copsarebastards on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @12:25AM (#10417431)
> We don't know. There are many, many narratives.

Ugh, who cares about "narratives"? We have science to tell us which narrative is correct and which isn't, and for the most commonly used recreational drugs, we do know.