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Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by icebraining on Sunday October 18, 2015 @06:46AM (#10407830)
What do you mean?
Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by rmason on Sunday October 18, 2015 @07:04AM (#10407861)
It is quite simply the worst neighborhood in Detroit for crime. It's got 6% of the cities population but leads for shootings. For any given year you have a 1 in 7 chance of being a victim of crime.

There are plenty of places you could go in Detroit, have a good time and be relatively safe compared to most major cities. Despite this safe haven restaurant this neighborhood isn't one of them.

Here's a neighborhood crime map, darkest blue is safest:

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/detroit/crime/

The two gray areas are not Detroit, they're Highland Park and Hamtramack. Belle Isle (island in the river) since it was taken over by the state is now crawling with state troopers and is one of the safest areas in the city.

Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by icebraining on Sunday October 18, 2015 @10:50AM (#10408364)
It is quite simply the worst neighborhood in Detroit for crime.

Yes, I think the article is clear about that; it actually says it was rated the worst in the country. What I don't get is what the story "implies about the neighborhood" that one would prefer to think he simply has luck.

Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by patio11 on Sunday October 18, 2015 @06:57AM (#10407845)
Try phrasing the thesis of this article in a sentence beginning with the words "People in this neighborhood choose to..." It is absolutely, 100% clear what that thesis is and how that sentence must end. The decisionmaking model it implies is insane, unlikely, and also a thing that nobody who writes at any US newspaper (and certainly not the DFP) can actually get away with writing in any circumstance whatsoever, owing to the neighborhood demographics.
Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by kissickas on Sunday October 18, 2015 @07:47AM (#10407960)
I apologize if I'm a little slow but I still have no idea what I'm supposed to infer. Could you come out and just say clearly what you're trying to convey?
Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by JabavuAdams on Sunday October 18, 2015 @12:24PM (#10408663)
> It is absolutely, 100% clear what that thesis is and how that sentence must end.

It really isn't. I have a vague sense that you're avoiding saying something because you're afraid of being called a racist, or some-such. But that's about all I'm getting from this.

Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by hawkice on Sunday October 18, 2015 @10:08AM (#10408261)
"People in this neighborhood choose to rob well-defended chain stores (with more resources for possible criminal prosecution, like video tapes) instead of ill-defended, independent one-man shops". Sounds a little crazy, but I am getting the strong sense that isn't the thesis statement you were imagining.
Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by JabavuAdams on Sunday October 18, 2015 @12:16PM (#10408632)
Is that so unexpected, though? Ingroup vs. Outgroup.

Many. many people will steal from "faceless corporations", even if they wouldn't steal from an individual.

The owner is clearly part of the in-group.

Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by tcpekin on Sunday October 18, 2015 @12:20PM (#10408649)
People in this neighborhood choose to not rob a classic diner.

People in this neighborhood respect John's Diner, and its proprietor.

People in this neighborhood like the one restaurant they have left.

I'm just as confused as the rest of the people.

Re:Retro diner in Detroit neighborhood wards off crime by ido on Sunday October 18, 2015 @09:29AM (#10408170)
"People in this neighborhood choose to not rob this particular old diner"? I too am not sure what you're trying to say.