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Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by smt88 on Friday October 16, 2015 @05:07PM (#10402008)
8 was really, really similar to 7, except for the start menu. The start menu made little difference to me because I just create taskbar/desktop shortcuts or press the Windows key and type what I want. People bitched about the new start menu because they weren't willing to see that there were better ways to find their programs.

10 is really, really similar to 8 as well. The only noticeable difference is, again, the start menu. There are small things here and there (and a much nicer graphical design), but otherwise it's pretty much the same.

If you have enough storage, I'd suggest just trying Windows out as a dual-boot option. If you don't like it, you can always remove the Windows partition, no harm done.

Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by grimman on Friday October 16, 2015 @05:23PM (#10402089)
> People bitched about the new start menu because they weren't willing to see that there were better ways to find their programs.

What exactly was the better way though? I'm still on Win7 in my primary computer, having Win10 (and previously Win8) installed on my secondary.

On Win7 I press the start button and type the name of what I want to run (or find) - this lets me do what I want very quickly with a minimum of interruption.

Win8 was similar, but it threw a jarring fullscreen slab of apps in my face. I say it was similar because it still let me start typing right away and get to the stuff I wanted with minimal hassle.

Win10 is a whole different beast, I feel. The search was decoupled from the start menu; but the start menu itself returned to most of its former glory (unintrusive, no jarring screen transition). The key factor here is that I can no longer just start typing to get to an app, and I have yet to invest the necessary time into seeing if it is at all possible since it's still my secondary machine.

Right now, amidst all of the anti-Microsoft scaremongering, I'm also finding it less likely that I'll keep going down the Microsoft path. Linux is starting to look more and more attractive, with OS X a strong second place contender. And not just for the start menu.

Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by kemayo on Friday October 16, 2015 @07:20PM (#10402609)
> The key factor here is that I can no longer just start typing to get to an app,

Not sure what you mean; Windows 10 is exactly like Windows 7 and Windows 8 here. You hit the start button / start key, you start typing, and the things you want start popping up.

Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by grimman on Saturday October 17, 2015 @06:21AM (#10403968)
> Not sure what you mean; Windows 10 is exactly like Windows 7 and Windows 8 here. You hit the start button / start key, you start typing, and the things you want start popping up.

I can assure you, that is not the way it currently functions on my Win10 machine. For me the search bar is a magnifying glass next to the start menu, at a minimum, or a full-blown text field. Regardless of which state, I have to click it before being able to type and search.

Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by mintplant on Friday October 16, 2015 @05:10PM (#10402020)
YMMV if you're on a laptop, though. Some models lose control over screen brightness with the 7 -> 10 upgrade, locking it to 100% all the time. Microsoft doesn't have an explanation or fix.
Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by Teckla on Saturday October 17, 2015 @05:00PM (#10406069)
People bitched about the new start menu because they weren't willing to see that there were better ways to find their programs.

I really hate seeing this "blame the victim" mentality.

People here on Hackers News might be prepared to seek and deploy alternative start menus, but for many, perhaps most, non-technical users, it's a difficult and scary prospect.

Re:Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windo... by smt88 on Saturday October 17, 2015 @10:54PM (#10407058)
So what are you saying? No company should improve its UI?

To be clear, Microsoft thought they were improving the start menu (the point-and-click, non-search usage of it) as well. It may be better, for all I know. But starting with Windows 8, I just totally stopped using it, so I can't weigh in on that.

Windows also comes with a tutorial at the beginning that explains the new UI.