TPP could thwart computer security research and tinkering

Re:TPP could thwart computer security research and tinkering by walterbell on Friday October 16, 2015 @11:33AM (#10399974)

> it's too early to know what it's impact is going to be

Consider the legal threat model:

  Team A: hundreds of industry lobbyists have years of online 
          access to TPP drafts (i.e. change history).

  Team B: government representatives have physical access,
          but only in a secure room where they can take no
          notes/phone, and cannot bring their expert staff 
          to interpret complex legal language.

  Team C: public advocates (e.g. US Copyright Office) are
          effectively excluded from the process.

With this legal threat model, there is reason to be cautious of charitable interpretations of proposed laws which emerge from the TPP's imbalanced development process, as we try to interpret the text without the benefit of draft comments or git/change history.

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Re:TPP could thwart computer security research and tinkering by tptacek on Friday October 16, 2015 @12:09PM (#10400251)

I'm not sure why we need to discuss the process, since the actual wording of the TPP's copyright section is right there for us to analyze.

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Re:TPP could thwart computer security research and tinkering by walterbell on Friday October 16, 2015 @12:20PM (#10400325)

For the same reason why big-bang, throw-code-over-the-wall open-source projects rarely succeed.

The flawed TPP process will affect 800 million people.

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Re:TPP could thwart computer security research and tinkering by tptacek on Friday October 16, 2015 @12:23PM (#10400356)

At the very least it makes for an extremely boring discussion if we start from the premise that the article must be right "because lobbyists".

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Re:TPP could thwart computer security research and tinkering by walterbell on Friday October 16, 2015 @12:33PM (#10400419)

Non-inclusive processes don't fail because of lobbyists. They fail because the excluded majority ignores outputs which made little attempt to include their requirements. A poor process that creates non-representative TPP law will degrade public perception of future laws. See the movie 1776.

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