Re:Debian Dropping the Linux Standard Base
by geofft on Thursday October 08, 2015 @10:05PM
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http://ewontfix.com/14/ is one of the classic posts here, but it deserves a good rebuttal, not the straw-man one included. (The starting point I'd make is, if init were really as simple as purported, why isn't it built-in to the kernel? Why not simply skip all the kernel code to reparent children to init, and have children die immediately instead of becoming zombies if their parent has exited? Why not remove all the code to panic if pid 1 dies, and make it just a process like any other?)
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Re:Debian Dropping the Linux Standard Base
by XorNot on Friday October 09, 2015 @02:18AM
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There is stunningly little content in that link. There's a lot of broad points absolutely devoid of serious examples of how they are problems under systemd.
You can't just go "attack surface" and have said anything useful, nor can you point at volume of code if that code is actually needed. All criticisms of systemd usually depend on people completely ignoring the very serious problems you can't solve with sysvinit and which do make actual, practical systems less secure (i.e. cgroup process isolation is amazing, and a lack of real service management is a huge problem and any service management is going to be running as root period. Yet there's been a real claim that service management is "what your sysadmin does". Why even bother with computing then?)