Re:FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings "ridi...
by denom on Thursday October 08, 2015 @11:34AM
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I know it's a little esoteric to ask, but where does violence begin and where does it end? If no one in our society is willing to step forward and give a helping hand, the cycle of poverty and violence will continue, always. It takes very little creative energy to imagine reasons why the police should shoot first and ask questions later. It is much harder to tackle problems like early childhood education, access to jobs and healthy food, and at a moment of explosive confrontation, for the police to show mercy.
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Re:FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings "ridi...
by saulrh on Thursday October 08, 2015 @11:38AM
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I know that reducing violence is a big, complicated problem. Not increasing violence is also hard. I'm just annoyed by this particular conversational gambit: I suspect that, when you say things like "the police are going to kill you", a lot of people read that as "kill them first", and the result is increased violence in both directions for no real purpose.
I would be much, much happier if this conversation moved more in the direction of fixing the war on drugs, the prison complex, and in particular the political attraction to being "hard on crime".
Re:FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings "ridi...
by anon4 on Thursday October 08, 2015 @12:22PM
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Why should I give a helping hand? My hand is my own. What have they done to deserve it? etc. etc. ad nauseam
Re:FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings "ridi...
by Frondo on Thursday October 08, 2015 @01:07PM
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Because we are all a part of society, and as such we all have some small responsibility to one another (e.g. paying taxes, obeying laws even when there's no risk of being caught, etc).
Re:FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings "ridi...
by nickff on Thursday October 08, 2015 @01:28PM
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What you are asserting is that governments have 'political authority'; the only problem with that is that very few philosophers actually agree with that (despite a great deal of work attempting to justify political authority).[1][2][3]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Problem_of_Political_Autho...
[2] http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/authority/#ReaConConLegPol...