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Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by pjc50 on Thursday October 08, 2015 @07:11AM (#10351937)
Oh, the tactics did offend people. And still do. But it was always a small number of people that cared about software freedom.

The Microsoft consent decree was about restricting browser choice by shipping their own browser as default and claiming it was unremovable. By contrast, today Apple idevices not only ship with a browser but ban all competing browsers (via the ban on run-time compilation effectively banning JIT compilers). Apple have total control over every application that is allowed to ship on the platform and take a 30% cut.

Google are responsible for Android, which is Free software to the absolute minimum they could get away with by law. It relies on millions of lines of GPL'd code, yet for most phones it's quite hard to get a rebuildable source tree that even includes all the kernel drivers, and if you do it may be prohibited from loading by a locked bootloader.

Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by pmelendez on Thursday October 08, 2015 @08:39AM (#10352296)
"The Microsoft consent decree was about restricting browser choice by shipping their own browser as default and claiming it was unremovable"

But it was technically unremovable, in those days you could open a windows explorer and type an URL and then you suddenly have internet explorer right into your window. It was an awful design flaw that costed them lagging apart after the post IE6 era.

The other thing is that wouldn't matter if Netscape were superior. Actually, it didn't matter because that was still the case and once better browsers came up (Firefox, Chrome), Internet Explorer turned in technical debt.

So still now the whole "the browser comes as default" sounds like a whining excuse to me.

Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by pjc50 on Thursday October 08, 2015 @08:53AM (#10352378)
The intent was to "cut off Netscape's air supply":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/longterm/micro...

Had they succeeded with the IE strategy, ActiveX controls would have the same endemic status as Flash does now, but unimplementable on any browser other than IE.

Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by pmelendez on Thursday October 08, 2015 @09:22AM (#10352558)
I am not saying that wasn't the intent. What I am saying is the only real guilty one in the Netscape fail was Netscape.

The situation was still there when Firefox and Chrome came to play (and I suspect also the intent) and it didn't prevent IE to step aside.

The same goes to Flash... it is still there because there still are stuff you can't do in HTML 5 (streaming live video for instance) and without a real alternative we would have to live with it (hopefully that will change soon)

Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by chadzawistowski on Thursday October 08, 2015 @04:08PM (#10355767)
> in those days you could open a windows explorer and type an URL and then you suddenly have internet explorer right into your window

This is still the case, isn't it? You can type "//google.com" into Explorer's address bar and it will launch your default browser to that address.

Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by pmelendez on Friday October 09, 2015 @08:20AM (#10359515)
Yeah but before it didn't launch anything. The browser was embedded to explorer.exe
Re:Microsoft’s Very Good Day by jbombadil on Thursday October 08, 2015 @08:26AM (#10352229)
Not to mention with 'SIP' (aka 'rootless'), Apple even has unrestricted control to part of your filesystem.

They promote it as a security feature, but it only protects their own interests. It does very little to protect actual user data (which is what the user cares about), and all to protect their eco-system (and therefore, their finances).