News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself?. Parent comment

Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by JulianMorrison on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @06:10AM (#10345118)
Reddit as it stands now is a hive of scum and villainy. If they want to be considered sane and serious and not an upscale 4chan, they need to kickban all the hate frothing racists and misogynists and clamp down hard on "free speech". Unfortunately, since their site has stunk for so long, that's basically all who's left, except the few voices crying in the wilderness.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by girvo on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @07:00AM (#10345261)
> Reddit as it stands now is a hive of scum and villainy

200 million users, and you think they're all that are left on there?

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by JulianMorrison on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @07:17AM (#10345319)
A rhetorical exaggeration, but the scum and villainy contingent are loud, and enablers are many. If it isn't you being targeted for hate, it's all too easy to say "oh I just talk about games" and never even notice how very white and male the discussion is. Not bothering to notice oppression is oppression (and an exercise of privilege).
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by mark_integerdsv on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @09:48AM (#10345956)
What is wrong with being white and male?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by JulianMorrison on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @10:33AM (#10346233)
There are complications about the origin of both concepts, but in context, absolutely nothing.

What's wrong is not noticing that your conversation is nothing but white and male. It implies that there are people who have been driven out, one way or another, and you aren't surprised by their absence.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by mark_integerdsv on Thursday October 08, 2015 @03:41AM (#10351374)
>There are complications about the origin of both concepts

Are you suggesting that my race and gender are ...'problematic?'

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by JulianMorrison on Thursday October 08, 2015 @04:10AM (#10351439)
Nah, at this point I'm suggesting that you're looking to argue.

Read this: https://medium.com/message/how-white-people-got-made-6eeb076...

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by mark_integerdsv on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @09:53AM (#10345977)
>they need to kickban all the hate frothing racists and misogynists and clamp down hard on "free speech"

This sounds dangerously like fascism IMHO.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by JulianMorrison on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @10:39AM (#10346261)
Absent the kind of hyper-exaggeration that makes people invoke Godwin's law, no, it doesn't. Your freedom of thought and expression is not imperiled if you get bounced out of a private club for being hateful.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by mark_integerdsv on Thursday October 08, 2015 @03:40AM (#10351370)
This has nothing to do with Nazis, please get a grip.

Fascism is a clearly defined concept, and there are many examples other than Nazism. In point of fact: it is not necessary to invoke Nazism in order to define fascism.

The kind of autocratic and intolerant behaviour that you suggest is clearly reminiscent of fascism.

Anyway, I have seen the arguments you raise before and I don't really see that we'll arrive at any kind of agreement here.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Can Steve Huffman Save Reddit from Itself? by MrZongle2 on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:13PM (#10348292)
"This sounds dangerously like fascism IMHO."

No, no, no... you've got it all wrong. See, smart and good people would be deciding what is acceptable and what isn't.

Totally different.

[ Parent | on HN ]