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Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by wahsd on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @05:19PM (#10342488)
>You don't chip $50 off a premium laptop and make it crappy

I got that kind of feeling though when he was talking about both the Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book. The SP4 is thicker than it could be because you wanted to add a full USB-A??? WHY?? and there are USB-A and not USB-C and a full SD slot on the Book ... WHY??? It made me ill to see them add that shit. It felt like typical MS snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Full SD?? Not micro SD??? Not mini SD??? Why again??? sigh

Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by lqdc13 on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @05:48PM (#10342655)
Full SD makes complete sense. Many cameras use an SD card.

Now you need a separate adapter to carry around with your laptop instead of a nice built-in SD card reader.

Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by csallen on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @07:10PM (#10343079)
I'd bet an extremely high (and growing) percentage of people never connect a digital camera to their computers, and those that do probably do so rarely. So do the benefits here justify the costs?
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by lqdc13 on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @07:17PM (#10343112)
How do people transfer photos from digital cameras then?

Many cameras don't have built in USB/networking of any kind.

Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by aianus on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @08:01PM (#10343288)
Most people don't own digital cameras any more, they just use their smartphones (which have USB/networking).
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by ekianjo on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @01:43AM (#10344354)
LOL, your comment is quite funny. This may be true for "most hipsters that don't care about photography", but in reality there are still many folks using regular mirrorless camera or even better, full frame DSLR because their price has dropped so much in the past 3 years. And these folks also happen to be the ones looking for premium laptop options in order to get data transferred fast (wifi is too slow for RAWs) and work on their pictures before publishing them.

It's not because you dont have a use for it that everyone out there is just like you.

Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by aianus on Thursday October 08, 2015 @09:46PM (#10357640)
Actually, I have a dSLR myself. But I'm a tech nerd and extremely aware that most people are nothing like me. Most people just take selfies on their smartphone cameras, run them through an ig filter, and call it a day.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by ekianjo on Thursday October 08, 2015 @11:28PM (#10357994)
Again, most people dont have a 1000+ USD laptop. You are not talking about your regular laptop user here - there is definitely more people who have large cameras and not only smartphones among the ones who buy expensive computers.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by aianus on Friday October 09, 2015 @12:30AM (#10358184)
I mean, I'm obviously biased because of my age, but walk into any college lecture hall and it's all $1000+ MacBooks. Only a small minority of those same students will ever buy a dSLR.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by tarblog on Thursday October 08, 2015 @12:53PM (#10353982)
Wifi is not too slow for RAWs. I backed-up my entire library to the cloud over wifi. I would bet most people don't need to transfer their files on a fast enough timescale that wifi is too slow for them.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by megablast on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @08:56PM (#10343503)
Most people use only their phones as cameras now.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by wahsd on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @12:04AM (#10344131)
No it doesn't its a horrible and unnecessary dependency. Why not simply do what Apple did with the MacBook, for those hands full of users who still need an SD reader and can't connect the device directly by wire, they could simply plug in a dongle. It's absolutely stupid really, especially with USB-C looking to take over. Hell, they put it in the damn phone, why not be consistent and go with it everywhere. stupid.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by ekianjo on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @01:45AM (#10344360)
You have insert mini and MicroSD with small adapters into SD slots, but you can't do the opposite. On top of that, SD cards are the ones with the biggest capacity out there. MicroSDs are very limited in storage and tend to be very costly when you go in the high storage range.
Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by apostrophedave on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @08:44PM (#10343469)
pretty annoying, especially when its so close to being the perfect laptop for me, one that i could go a good 10 or so years without having to upgrade if it only had included usb c and a fingerprint reader.

but from their point of view it probably makes more sense because where would you go after making a perfect laptop like that!? it would already be as thin as it can and there wouldnt be that much more to add to it apart from and slightly better cpu or gpu

Re:New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft by maratd on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @09:31PM (#10343636)
> and a fingerprint reader.

It has a fingerprint reader.