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Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by natch on Monday October 05, 2015 @06:35PM (#10335510)
This reminds me of the meme of first world problems versus third world problems.

Essentially, you are saying that because it saves you some annoyance, it's a good tradeoff, even if that means that a few others face not annoyance, but actual existential threats of death, violence, imprisonment, dismemberment, etc.

http://violetblue.tumblr.com/post/130440543695/why-im-sittin...

Edit: and yes, participation in Facebook is somewhat optional, but there's a larger price to be paid for not participating than the price of any of the annoyances you mention.

Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by kuschku on Monday October 05, 2015 @07:20PM (#10335697)
And, in some countries, even making copies or photographing or scanning an ID is a crime. I’ll not commit a crime just to get access to Facebook.
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by techdragon on Monday October 05, 2015 @08:31PM (#10336022)
I love learning random facts like this. Can I get a citation/link to where coping your own ID is a crime?
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by detaro on Monday October 05, 2015 @08:57PM (#10336131)
In Germany, making a copy of your own ID is probably legal but requesting a copy is illegal, as is making a copy if you are not the owner, with only very limited exceptions (e.g. some parts of government, for some financial transactions).

(Completely ignoring the fact that real name policies are legally dubious as well)

Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by ryandrake on Monday October 05, 2015 @07:25PM (#10335719)
What is the price I pay for not participating in Facebook?
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by taswal_tmanir on Monday October 05, 2015 @08:17PM (#10335962)
You might lose all online communication options with at least some of your friends. This is unacceptable to many/most people, hence why they join Facebook and end up perpetuating the effect.
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by ryandrake on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @12:13AM (#10336726)
So, if Facebook shut down tomorrow, we'd lose all online communication options?
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by natch on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @12:17AM (#10336733)
Now you're just being argumentative. This kind of thing belongs on reddit, not here.
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by ryandrake on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @12:57AM (#10336822)
Just responding to a ridiculous level of exaggeration. You guys appear to be seriously arguing that there was no easy way to keep in touch with friends and family before 2004.
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by natch on Monday October 05, 2015 @11:08PM (#10336531)
It's really not just about you, and what you care about. Other people may care about stuff you may or may not care about, and what they care about is valid to them.

To others, some things that may matter to them may include:

- Trackng down old friends

- Keeping in touch with friends

- Keeping in touch with acquaintances

- Staying aware of what friends and acquaintances are up to

- Keeping friends and acquaintances aware of what they are up to

- Fitting into social groups

- Staying aware of what their social groups of interest are up to

- Or more generally staying aware of cultural events, news, trends, and topics that are of interest amongst circles of people they are close to, or other circles of which they are members.

Facebook is a one-stop shop for a lot of these things. Sure, some or all of them are conceivably possible in other ways, but finding alternatives for all of them would involve significant expenditure of effort compared to just being a regular user of Facebook.

Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by ryandrake on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @12:12AM (#10336725)
So before about 10 years ago when Facebook was launched, these things were only "conceivably possible", maybe with significant effort expenditure? Really???
Re:Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dange... by natch on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @12:16AM (#10336731)
Yep. It really was a different world before Facebook. Just one real and important example: I had lost track of many of my old friends and acquaintances, and am now in touch with them.