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Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by sagivo on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:15PM (#10324812)
Apps are only popular because we don't do mobile web good enough. Most of the mobile web is either a banner asking download the app, or tons of adds with no room for content.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by corndoge on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:20PM (#10324838)
Mobile web doesn't come anywhere close to replicating the fluidity and functionality of a native app and it never will. Running a dedicated application designed for the system will always beat an application designed for the system on top of the system (web browser). I prefer native applications every time.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by currysausage on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:25PM (#10324853)
Yeah, but maybe I just want to, you know, read an article and not replicate the fluidity and functionality of a native app. Reading articles worked just fine with NCSA Mosaic, I promise it works fine mith Mobile Safari too.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by corndoge on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:43PM (#10324917)
OP's argument was that mobile apps are only popular because the mobile web is not good enough. Obviously when the mobile web is used for it's original intent -- pages of information, mostly text, some images -- and not full web applications with heavy JavaScript dependencies and animation and share buttons and shit, it's a pleasure to use.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by Turing_Machine on Saturday October 03, 2015 @04:50PM (#10325309)
"Yeah, but maybe I just want to, you know, read an article and not replicate the fluidity and functionality of a native app."

Exactly. There are, what, a billion or so websites nowadays?

Obviously installing an app for even a tiny fraction of a percent of those is not going to happen. Sooner or later, site owners are going to have to accept this basic fact.

Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by dcwca on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:23PM (#10324845)
What about the case where you plan on using the app one time for a grand total of 30 seconds? Is the trouble of visiting the App Store, authenticating, installing, launching, allowing permissions and onboarding really worthwhile? Or is that a case for the web's dynamic runtime?
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by progmal1 on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:25PM (#10324852)
The big catch is assuming that the team is big enough to put all the features into a variety of native apps.

It is possible that for a small team given the choice of one great web app or splitting time between Windows/OSx/iPhone/Android that the web app is superior.

Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by greglindahl on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:23PM (#10324843)
Blekko shipped an app -- izik -- which was extremely fluid even though it was actually a webpage. You and I probably have no idea which of the apparently native apps we use every day are actually webpages.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by corndoge on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:40PM (#10324906)
No, it's painfully obvious when applications are using a full-panel WebView with UI elements and transitions that aren't system-defined. It's also pretty obvious when you have no network and the app suddenly doesn't load.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by Turing_Machine on Saturday October 03, 2015 @04:51PM (#10325313)
It may be painfully obvious to an expert, but most people don't actually care.
Re:I Do Not Want Your Stupid App by m52go on Saturday October 03, 2015 @02:31PM (#10324876)
It's also because people don't take you seriously without one.

I recently made a webapp that works 100% as well as a native app (just as fluid & just as many features), but people wondered where the 'real app' was for Android and iOS.