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Re:Why Fogbugz lost to Jira by mpdehaan2 on Thursday October 01, 2015 @05:02PM (#10314687)
I will agree that "intelligent" time tracking features in FogBuz ~4 years ago seemed relatively flaky and random.

JIRA's benefits are likely in customization - which is a giant pain for managers in some ways, but it's nice that it can do it, but JIRA is supremely frustrating when editing dashboards. Every time somebody changed a component name, it would break all the underlying queries, etc.

I think there's a huge market for someone to overtake JIRA because it's so unfriendly, and I was very happy for various projects that had a team scope small enough to use Trello, but with better searching and a few more (optional) controls on top or something.

Since there's common DNA there, I think Trello could evolve to be that. I hope it can.

(BTW, I'm also nostalgic a tiny tiny amount for the end-user usability of Trac.)

Re:Why Fogbugz lost to Jira by herge on Thursday October 01, 2015 @05:11PM (#10314755)
All bug trackers are literally crap. It's a really hard tool to write. The ones that make dealing with individual items/cases/tickets like Trello fall apart when you are dealing with hundred's of items. The ones that manage groups of items together efficiently (jira, maybe fogbugz) are a pain to do data entry in.
Re:Why Fogbugz lost to Jira by eterm on Thursday October 01, 2015 @05:47PM (#10314997)
And then there are those which seem to manage collections and data entry but fall down completely when it comes to dashboards and data presentation. (see youtrack).
Re:Why Fogbugz lost to Jira by mark9white on Thursday October 01, 2015 @05:40PM (#10314946)
Try TargetProcess ... Gets very little attention. But hits that sweet spot for me at least.