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Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by chrsstrm on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @06:23PM (#10300221)
My worry is that this is a gateway drug to "Fingerprint protect all the things!"

My bank emailed me the other day with an announcement that I could access my account through their app via my fingerprint. WTF? My text messages are one thing by now my money is protected by just my fingerprint? I took my bank to task because they allowed my username to be twice as long as the allowed characters in my password. Someone at the bank said, "Hey, all these new-fangled phones have fingerprint readers, why don't we tap into that and sell it as a feature?" When everyone is doing it, no one is going to stop and ask if they should, it's just a race to incorporate the newest features. Normal people aren't asking if this is secure, they are buying into the marketing copy pushed on them, so they start thinking that it has to be secure, because why would my bank not have my interests in mind?

Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by tgb on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @07:30PM (#10300602)
What can the bank app do? Mine can only deposit and view accounts, not withdraw or transfer. Open access to it would be weird, but not much worse than someone fishing my ATM receipts out of the trash to see my balance.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by chrsstrm on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @07:52PM (#10300721)
It's Bank of America, so it's about as feature-filled as a banking app gets. You can do all the normal stuff like check balances and deposit checks, but you can also open new accounts (including credit cards) and transfer money (between other accounts you own or to other people outside the bank). And yes, the app has the ability to add new transfer recipients, which only needs their email address or phone number. There is a protection to guard against unauthorized adding of new recipients, but you guessed it, the protection is in the form of a 2FA code sent via SMS. So if you're already in the phone and in the banking app you can add yourself as a transfer recipient with your email address and verify the recipient addition because you can read the incoming text messages too. And the warning email that comes when you add a new recipient and initiate a new transfer is likely going to come to the same phone you're currently holding. If you get into my banking app through my phone you can send yourself as much of my money as you want and cover your tracks so I wouldn't know until my next statement comes, and to top it all off, it looks like I was the one who sent the money to you, so how am I going to argue that I didn't?
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by tgb on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @11:34AM (#10304686)
This is scary enough I'm uninstalling my app just incase they add these "features" in an update. Thanks. Oh well, no big loss.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by TechieKid on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @12:50AM (#10301858)
Thank you for validating my decision to not put any BofA online banking apps on my phone.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by wisty on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @06:58AM (#10302989)
Yeah, no-one will steal your fingerprint, just like no-one will crack a reasonably strong password. But if every site has a copy ...
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by SideburnsOfDoom on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @08:22AM (#10303353)
It's quite possible that your fingerprint has already been stolen

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/23/us-governm...

Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by branchan on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @11:00PM (#10301455)
The bottomline is that if someone can hack a server to steal your fingerprint, they can just as easily use the same method to steal your method so I don't really see the differen imho.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by TechieKid on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @12:48AM (#10301852)
The bottomline is that someone doesn't need to hack a server to steal your fingerprint, you leave those everywhere you go as virtual gifts to any passers-by. All they need to do is steal your phone, and that's pick-pocketing level easy.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by branchan on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @01:20AM (#10301946)
Ummm, if I lose my phone, I'm just going to remotely disable it so there's no way the person who stole my phone can reach my data.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by bostik on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @02:43AM (#10302191)
So, you're using full-disk encryption on your phone and the remote kill switch flushes the key?

Otherwise the data is still there in the plain, accessible by anyone who can read the flash.

Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by EwanToo on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @04:05AM (#10302453)
If you're using a Nexus 5X or 6P on Android 6, then probably yes.

Android 5 has full disk encryption but was disabled by default on the Nexus 5 (and most other phones) due to performance issues.

Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by tdkl on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @07:58AM (#10303250)
Do the Nexus 5X or 6P finally have hardware encryption support ?

I didn't notice any mention of those, specially because they failed miserably last year parading full disk encryption on Nexus 6 and got bitten when reviews showed the performance degradation and lack of hardware encryption.

Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by EwanToo on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @08:58AM (#10303541)
It's a good question, I've looked and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 has the support needed, but I don't know if it'll be enabled by default or not in Android 6.

If it's not, then Google are starting to take the piss..

Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by nileshtrivedi on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @12:04AM (#10301667)
Except that you can't choose a different fingerprint for each app/site. Lose it once and all your accounts are compromised.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by branchan on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @01:24AM (#10301963)
All the apps that I use give me the option to not use fingerprint login.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by branchan on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @01:23AM (#10301959)
*steal your password
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by zuppy on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @07:01PM (#10300438)
Fair point, it should be used for convenience, not for real security.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by jgord on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @08:30PM (#10300902)
.. non-hackers will equate it with security.
Re:Google Nexus 5x and 6P by r-w on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @09:22PM (#10301105)
Non-hackers aren’t responsible for data security. Well, except for Sony. And every other company that doesn’t deal with data security in particular.