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Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by a3voices on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:20PM (#10292010)
This would be very politically incorrect, but I'd wager the best way to find top performers is to ask "What do your parents do for work, and how much money do they make?" There is a very high correlation between the success of parents and their children.
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by laxatives on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:36PM (#10292123)
Certainly above average parents are likely to produce above average children. But most the top performing parents' children are likely to regress back towards the mean. Getting the highest umpteenth percentile in anything is going to be crapshoot if you only consider one factor.
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by emodendroket on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:59PM (#10292288)
I don't think it'd be hard, if you gave it a moment, to think of counterexamples whom we'd almost all recognize.
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by vinceguidry on Monday September 28, 2015 @03:39PM (#10292618)
Avoiding false positives is much more important than eliminating all the false negatives. Ugly, but true.
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by vonmoltke on Monday September 28, 2015 @04:12PM (#10292856)
Much parroted, rarely if ever supported by hard data.
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by vinceguidry on Monday September 28, 2015 @04:19PM (#10292911)
One does not need data to support it.

Attention is your scarcest resource at any company. You hire people to add to this resource. Bad hires do not add, but subtract from this pool, by forcing you to pay attention to them rather than on running your business.

No amount of "hard data" can make that untrue.

Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by vonmoltke on Monday September 28, 2015 @07:09PM (#10293784)
> One does not need data to support it.

I'm an engineer; one always needs data to support something.

> Attention is your scarcest resource at any company. You hire people to add to this resource.

Not sure what you mean by "attention", but I think it is the same thing I would call "throughput": the rate at which the company can turn customer requirements into engineering products (and thus money). If so, I would agree, as pretty much all resources of the company combine to affect this.

> Bad hires do not add, but subtract from this pool, by forcing you to pay attention to them rather than on running your business.

Still on board with you. I would agree that someone whose net throughput contribution is negative is a bad hire.

The problem is, this has nothing to do with the statement I was originally reacting to: "Avoiding false positives is much more important than eliminating all the false negatives." That statement needs hard data about:

- The expected number of false positives

- The expected magnitude of the throughput loss from each false positive

- The expected number of false negatives

- The expected magnitude of the lost potential throughput due to the false negatives

Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by vinceguidry on Monday September 28, 2015 @07:45PM (#10293912)
>The problem is, this has nothing to do with the statement I was originally reacting to: "Avoiding false positives is much more important than eliminating all the false negatives."

You don't quantify the impact of false positives the same way you do the false negatives. A false negative simply means you take more time to look for a candidate. A false positive's impact is so huge that you can't come up with numbers large enough for false negatives to outweigh it.

To make a broader point, not everything can be tracked and measured. Things that can be tracked and measured often can't be compared to each other usefully.

Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by vonmoltke on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @11:47AM (#10297141)
> You don't quantify the impact of false positives the same way you do the false negatives. A false negative simply means you take more time to look for a candidate. A false positive's impact is so huge that you can't come up with numbers large enough for false negatives to outweigh it.

I vehemently disagree with this.

A false negative means either work isn't getting done or current people are overworked. This is costing your business. If it isn't, why are you hiring in the first place?

As for the cost of false positives being "huge", how? All you have stated is that a bad hire brings down the net productivity of a team. How much is very relevant and something you can get a rough feel for. If I hire someone who has a slight net negative impact on team productivity, and they show no signs of improving, I fire them and move on. Is it a worse outcome than not hiring them or anyone else for that period of time? Yes. Is it a huge impact? Not at all.

You can come up with a hypothetical worst-case, company-destroying false positive, but that would be comparing apples to oranges based on your position concerning false negatives. The worst-case false negative situation is also company-destroying.

Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by emodendroket on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @03:37PM (#10298970)
That includes the children of rich people. Your metric fails in both directions.
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by cocolos on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:34PM (#10292114)
This reminds me of the freakanomics episode: Parent's don't matter (http://freakonomics.com/2011/06/15/how-much-do-parents-reall...)
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by klenwell on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:57PM (#10292276)
Didn't listen to the podcast, but if the thesis is borrowed from Judith Rich Harris[0], then the GP's claim is still valid. To wit, parents' parenting practices have limited impact on their children (vs. peers and genetics) but their success and income do (via genetics and the influence of wealth over peer environment).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Rich_Harris

Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by jdc on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:25PM (#10292048)
Citations?
Re:Interview Questions for Hiring Top Performers by bluedevil2k on Monday September 28, 2015 @02:43PM (#10292162)
Discusses intelligence and genetics - key point, intelligence is about 50% heritable. http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/intelligence-and-genetics-d...

Discusses the correlation between high intelligence and higher incomes - key point, the scatter diagram showing a clear correlation. http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/02/06/correlations...