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Re:How many Ubuntu Phones there are? by Tepix on Monday September 28, 2015 @04:56AM (#10289472)
I'd love to use an Ubuntu phone, but the last couple of times I've tried, it was still pretty awful to use. Currently, the only phone I could install it on is a Galaxy Nexus and it's not surprising that the OS would be slow there. However I've read that it's still stuttering on the Meizu MX4 (in this german review: http://www.golem.de/news/meizu-mx4-mit-ubuntu-im-test-knapp-... ).

Also, the lack of Ubuntu Convergence (the "killer feature"), is disappointing.

Re:How many Ubuntu Phones there are? by vegabook on Monday September 28, 2015 @05:27AM (#10289543)
I've been running the Ubuntu Aquaris E5 since it launched. The main reason I want to stick with it through the difficult early time (browser crashes continuously), is that I want a proper Linux environment on which to develop applications for phones/tablets. I hate having to be forced into Java on Android, and IOS is too locked down and you can't use custom hardware. I hope they stick with it (the main phone guy recently left Canonical) but I can only agree that it is now becoming extremely urgent for Canonical to ship convergence, as without it, this OS is a poor cousin to the competition, even if the user interface is quite clean and fresh by comparison to the gaudy design of Android and IOS. It definitely has potential as much more of an open, blank slate for developers than the others, but the key word is "potential". It's not there yet.
Re:How many Ubuntu Phones there are? by pmden on Monday September 28, 2015 @05:16AM (#10289518)
>However I've read that it's still stuttering on the Meizu MX4

I can confirm this. I do feel it got better with the last update, but it is still noticeably laggy in situations where it has little reason to be. It doesn't help the primary screen, or hub, or scope (whatever it might be known as) has a tendency to refresh itself frequently, and draws its various components in a very unpolished manner.

With that said, it isn't all bad - I've been really impressed with the podcatcher "Podbird". If every Ubuntu touch application was as well done as this, I could probably start recommending it to people I know. Here's a recent video of the desktop build, which is largely identical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLSqz7skYvw

Re:How many Ubuntu Phones there are? by cmsj on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @05:08AM (#10295237)
I know a lot of geeks like to think Convergence is a killer feature as a device feature, but I think this is completely mistaken.

Convergence is about data, right? You want all your data to appear magically on whatever form factor of computing you are using.

The key mistake of the concept of convergence at the device level, is that it runs against Moore's Law.

Modern smartphones are pretty darn powerful, but the SoCs that drive them, are also pretty darn cheap. That means that whatever shell you want to dock your phone with, can just have the same SoC and be a computing device in its own right.

It seems odd to me that you'd want to have lots of shells (be they tablet shells, laptop shells, or docks with monitor/kb/mouse on a desktop) sitting around not able to do any computing, because their CPU is somewhere else in your pocket. For a few extra bucks per shell, you can make it a primary node in your computing life. Or for a few more extra bucks per shell, you can make it a powerful node in your computing life.

Convergence is much more convenient at the cloud level - all of your form factors have their own CPU/RAM/Storage (which can also then be varied, to allow devices with more power delivery to offer more computing power) and the data can flow magically between them. This is already a reality today. My watch, phone, tablet, laptop and desktop all have access to the same data and I can use all of them at once if I want to.