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Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by rbanffy on Sunday January 03, 2010 @02:27PM (#1028930)
Great. Ellison owns a piece of software anybody can fork and use as GPL!
Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by nailer on Sunday January 03, 2010 @02:41PM (#1028965)
He owns the brand, and controls the direction of the product bearing that brand.
Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by gaius on Sunday January 03, 2010 @03:00PM (#1029005)
Which means nothing really. If Monty announces that MarisDB is "the real MySQL" everyone who's ever heard of MySQL will go with him. Everyone else probably doesn't even know what database is under their company's data.

All Sun got for their $1Bn was the domain name mysql.com...

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by seldo on Sunday January 03, 2010 @03:39PM (#1029089)
I really don't think that's true. The "average" MySQL user has never heard of Monty -- I used MySQL for more than a decade before I heard the name of its inventor.

MySQL's battle for the last decade has mostly been getting enough brand recognition that corporate environments consider it a serious, practical alternative. The brand IS the value of MySQL: it is a promise that the technology has been worked on by serious people, and will continue to be patched and improved for the forseeable future (however realistic that promise turns out to be).

Starting again with a new brand is possible, but by definition it would be a new company which would have to prove its chops and its longevity all over again.

Losing the MySQL brand would be a serious setback to MySQL adoption in corporate environments, and thereby a setback to the amount of money that gets invested in improving it. It is in the interests of all users of MySQL that the brand remain trusted.

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by jacquesm on Sunday January 03, 2010 @11:31PM (#1029766)
Monty did not 'invent' mysql, it is a partial implementation of a standard.

Losing the mysql brand would mean less than nothing, in the corporate world a brand has value in the open source world the name changes and everybody moves on.

See joomla vs mambo and a ton of other examples.

The only person that really seems to have a problem with this is Monty himself since he can't let go of his baby even after selling it down the river. Which plenty of people spoke up about when he sold it to SUN in the first place.

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by gaius on Sunday January 03, 2010 @04:11PM (#1029146)
it is a promise that the technology has been worked on by serious people

All those people have quit Sun and work for Monty now...

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by rbanffy on Sunday January 03, 2010 @03:42PM (#1029096)
"All Sun got for their $1Bn was the domain name mysql.com..."

Which kind of bothers me because I really like Sun hardware. Every blunder Sun makes pushed SPARC closer to extinction.

I hope Oracle keeps making the Type 7 keyboards with Control where God wanted it to be. That's not too much to ask...

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by JulianMorrison on Sunday January 03, 2010 @08:09PM (#1029460)
He owns the ability to say "no" to anyone who wants a closed source license.
Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by rbanffy on Sunday January 03, 2010 @09:54PM (#1029632)
Yes, but those folks will quickly jump ship to other RDBMS. I suspect most will simply go with SQLite.

I don't know of anything that embeds a relational database that has the requirements of a MySQL.

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by JulianMorrison on Monday January 04, 2010 @02:26AM (#1029959)
Do you think he'd hate them jumping ship to SQLite?

Supposing he actually is being Machiavellian, he wants MySQL not to be so strong a competitor for the middle and high end of commercial installations. He can afford to concede the very low end - Oracle doesn't play there, except perhaps with BDB (a minor sideline).

Re:Why Save MySQL Now? by blasdel on Sunday January 03, 2010 @11:10PM (#1029747)
Surely Adobe Acrobat Professional absolutely depends on the power provided to it by the mysqld process it launches!