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Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by austenallred on Friday September 25, 2015 @06:30PM (#10281113)
I think when you say "the app" you really mean "the convenience of not having to hail a cab" specifically. The app is a game changer, but not for that reason. Not having to hail is nice, but that's only the tip of the iceberg.

For example, a couple of days ago I took an Uber. The driver that picked me up was a student. I asked him why he was driving, and he said, "Oh, well I came [to this city] to hang out with my friends, but they can't do anything for another hour. So I decided to do a few rides while I wait."

Uber was able to take the unused potential of someone just messing around in a city and use them to pick me up.

They are able to do that because they can watch everything that happens via the app. If someone tries to screw you over and take a long route if you're new to the city, Uber gives you a refund and the driver doesn't get paid. If the driver is driving like a maniac on bald tires while they talk on their phone, you can give them a low rating. Enough of those and they get kicked off of the service entirely. In other words, instead of an expensive and burdensome network of licensing and regulations, Uber was able to better regulate what was happening using technology.

The first time I ever took an Uber a driver came and picked me up, opened the door for me, gave me a water bottle and some candy, turned on the music I like, and was very safe and professional. And the whole thing cost less than a taxi. I haven't been in a taxi since.

So the app is the main attraction, but not because you can hail a car (though that's nice, especially when you're in underserved areas). It's because the app allows Uber to create a completely different economy around the supply and demand of ridesharing.

Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by unKlever on Friday September 25, 2015 @06:47PM (#10281178)
I think the parent was talking about supply side. I think you are totally correct but, I find myself not satisfied with the answer. All legitimate cab companies should puf money into hiring a company to build a sinple app to connect them to legal taxis. You pay, you get on the app. Tagline, "as convenient as uber, only legal".

It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than funding lawyers and lobbyists like they have been.

Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by austenallred on Friday September 25, 2015 @07:08PM (#10281267)
That's exactly the point though, it's the entire system that needs replacing. It's awfully hard to turn a ship around when it's as large as the taxi industry (with lobbies to boot).

Take one element of it - say the taxi companies said, "OK, you're now getting rated, and if you drop below 5 stars you lose your medallion." Drivers would lose their minds.

Imagine them saying, "Also, now your trips are going to cost 50% less" again, would not fly.

Or even, "You can use your own car, because that's way more efficient" (would never happen, because taxi drivers rent their cars for $40,000/month).

The taxi industry has done a hell of a lot to entrench itself and make itself irreplaceable, no matter how awful it is. In doing so, it has created a system completely resistant to change and innovation. The industry was ripe for someone to come along and replace it with a parallel system that was better and more efficient.

Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by eru on Saturday September 26, 2015 @05:29AM (#10282626)
> Or even, "You can use your own car, because that's way more efficient" (would never happen, because taxi drivers rent their cars for $40,000/month).

Where is that figure from?

Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by austenallred on Saturday September 26, 2015 @10:34AM (#10283190)
Whoops. Meant per year, of course, but http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/234289
Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by ericflo on Friday September 25, 2015 @06:52PM (#10281198)
http://flywheel.com/ it's been around for quite a while and I remember seeing a ton of ads for them
Re:For San Francisco Cab Drivers, Once-Treasured Medallions ... by Kalium on Friday September 25, 2015 @07:09PM (#10281269)
The experience is terrible and cabbies still have all the perverse incentives that make people loathe them.