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Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by araneae on Saturday January 02, 2010 @09:46AM (#1027248)
I think that idea that men use wealth to attract mates is pretty damn obvious, but I never really considered that women use displays of altruism to attract males. But makes sense that women would want to say "look! I'll make a good mommy! I am nice and selfless!"

But to go back to our usual question of women-in-tech, people often remark that women tend to go into fields that are more "helping" i.e. medical professions, non-profits. In general, I think the implication that women go into more "helping" fields and men go into more revenue generating fields is used to paint men in a bad light; but here they've shown that women are being just as selfish when they appear to be more altruistic than men. After all, they're much more likely to do charity when a potential mate is watching.

Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by vaksel on Saturday January 02, 2010 @10:23AM (#1027282)
I think they go into nursing because the income is better than programming.

My cousin's wife just became a nurse. 2 years of schooling, and her first job started her off at $80K a year. And since she doesn't work at a hospital, that's $80K for regular hours.

And she is just a regular nurse fresh out of school.

Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by nazgulnarsil on Saturday January 02, 2010 @10:27AM (#1027285)
extrapolating from a single data point is a bad idea. the national average for 2009 is in the ballpark of $45k
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by blackguardx on Saturday January 02, 2010 @02:41PM (#1027552)
That statistic gets dragged down by nurses who only have associates degrees. Nurses with a B.S. earn over $60k on average.
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by pmorici on Saturday January 02, 2010 @02:52PM (#1027563)
It's possible to get 80k out of school as a computer scientist and I also know nurses that have a 4 year degree before they started nursing school so...
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by iigs on Saturday January 02, 2010 @12:04PM (#1027372)
If people go into nursing because the perception is that it pays so well, these viewpoints are not contradictory.
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by vaksel on Saturday January 02, 2010 @02:39PM (#1027551)
well this is NYC, $80K here is like $45K in Kentucky
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by zaidf on Saturday January 02, 2010 @01:55PM (#1027500)
But makes sense that women would want to say "look! I'll make a good mommy! I am nice and selfless!"

I was hanging out with this girl when this random guy approaches us in the parking lot asking for gas money, saying how he's forgotten his wallet at home. I am super wary of his story and am about to walk off. The girl with me doesn't. She wants to go in the ATM and get him some money. I let her do that and like you said, knowing the girl would go out of the way to help some random guy added brownie points for her in my book.

Of course, if I was being totally rational I may have considered the move dumb on her part. But my gut reaction was "cool chick!".

Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by nopassrecover on Saturday January 02, 2010 @10:07AM (#1027265)
Well "pretty damn obvious" wasn't so clear. As a concept it sounds nice and clean that we're all motivated by sex but when you (I'm assuming you're male) go and buy a new car, new watch or a trip to Europe, are you really thinking "this will impress the ladies"? Because that's what this study has actually proved for once - conspicuous purchasing decisions are motivated by sex (conversely conspicuous charity for women).
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by araneae on Saturday January 02, 2010 @10:44AM (#1027294)
I guess what is obvious to me is that conspicuous behavior != conscious behavior. No one is really thinking "this will impress the ladies" or "this will impress the guys" when they perform these behaviors, but that's really irrelevant.

Most of human behavior, I would argue, is not conscious. We're conscious of the decisions we make, but not always about the ultimate (evolutionary) causes. And why should we? It's completely unnecessary for the evolutionary reasons for our behavior to be conscious, only that we act in a manner that will produce more copy of our genes.

Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by krakensden on Saturday January 02, 2010 @02:54PM (#1027565)
"Man is not a rational animal, man is a rationalizing animal"
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by adammichaelc on Saturday January 02, 2010 @12:58PM (#1027424)
Maybe I'm all alone here, but in high school I remember buying a car and thinking exactly "can't wait to show the girls." :)
Re:Sex and shopping - it's a guy thing by pwnstigator on Saturday January 02, 2010 @01:17PM (#1027460)
I think that idea that men use wealth to attract mates is pretty damn obvious, but I never really considered that women use displays of altruism to attract males.

It makes sense. The contest for status (i.e.. access to women) among men makes men a lot more mean-spirited and despicable than they would like to be, so a woman who is, or seems to be, "above the fray" is very attractive.

This explains the appeal of the female healer, the angel in the house, etc.