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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't phones software? by Toenex on Thursday September 24, 2015 @05:51AM (#10270722)
Here's a scenario. I need to make a call but my phone is out of charge. "Here use mine." you say as you hand me your handset. I login on your handset, make my call, logout and hand it back to you. The call came from my number, charged to me I just happened to use your handset.
Re:Ask HN: Why aren't phones software? by mattmalin on Thursday September 24, 2015 @06:17AM (#10270779)
This is the current system, but with "use this physical item, the SIM card, to login".

This does assumes that the replacement phone in question is unlocked so can work on the other SIM card, but is certainly something that many people do quite often.

Re:Ask HN: Why aren't phones software? by Toenex on Thursday September 24, 2015 @06:39AM (#10270856)
and that I have my sim card with me.
Re:Ask HN: Why aren't phones software? by mattmalin on Thursday September 24, 2015 @08:43AM (#10271253)
Agreed, not an equivalent system.

Another scenario where this causes issues that a login equivalent can improve: imagine losing your phone including SIM card. This then causes a full interruption of all services tied to that phone number including actual phone service, and SMS, until the SIM is replaced. This usually takes hours/days depending on your location or carrier.

The other big difference in just swapping out sim cards is the need for a full phone reset and the interruption to the service of whomever you're borrowing the phone!

Re:Ask HN: Why aren't phones software? by Toenex on Friday September 25, 2015 @10:01AM (#10278161)
Yep, essentially lots of 'not quites' with the current system.

I want phone-as-easy-as-email. I logon and immediately calls are routed to that device and I can pick up voicemail, make calls and send texts. If I have another phone account I can use the same handset to log into that account at the same time and all calls to that number get routed to the device as well. If the device has radio hardware (such as phone handset) it uses the radio network otherwise it uses wifi or whatever other network comms that device has. When I logout it all stops.

As a customer that's the interface to 'phone' that I want. Phone is soft, not hard.

Re:Ask HN: Why aren't phones software? by RogerL on Saturday September 26, 2015 @05:33PM (#10284489)
Imagine 2.9 Billion phones with a login of 'password'.

SIMs are secure(ish). Hand typed passwords are not (no one want to memorize and type a 20 character password formed from a mix of upper/lower/numbers/symbols).

(yes, sims are hacked and cost carriers billions. hacking sw passwords is a lot easier).