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Re:Chris Poole by mahranch on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:21PM (#10268334)
> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan!

I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan.

Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a long and tenured account history or else they don't really have a shot at being added onto a mod team in the first place. Very few subreddits, and no large ones, will add someone to their team without a history.

This is important because with a history, you open yourself up to attacks. If you do something unpopular, you will get witch-hunted by reddit's masses. I speak from personal experience. People will call your house, your loved ones, send pizzas or worse. You're literally walking on eggshells 24/7, 365 days of the year. And then even if you do everything right, if someone has it out for you, it doesn't matter. They'll still figure out who you are and harass you. It's an added dynamic that just doesn't exist with moderation on 4chan.

Moderating a large subreddit on reddit (a large default, like /r/Pics, /r/Funny, /r/Worldnews, etc) is probably the toughest moderating job on the internet right now. And what makes it tough are the millions upon millions of users.

On 4chan, you're literally a janitor. On reddit, you're a janitor and you're also responsible for community building and everything that comes along with that. It's your community and if you don't build it, nobody will come.

Re:Chris Poole by janny_throwaway on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:34PM (#10268389)
>On 4chan, you're literally a janitor. On reddit, you're a janitor and you're also responsible for community building and everything that comes along with that. It's your community and if you don't build it, nobody will come.

That's a fair point. I was mostly addressing the comment about "barrier to entry," since the barrier to entry on 4chan is essentially nil. Without anything resembling an account history, there's a huge amount of impersonation, which makes for a challenging social dynamic.

> If you do something unpopular, you will get witch-hunted by reddit's masses

Interestingly, my janitor handle was leaked at one point, and despite it being just a few hops away from my real identity, I never experienced any harassment. I can only assume it's because I wasn't much of a target; 4chan doesn't tell you who was responsible for your ban, so only moot and a few of the more outspoken mods attracted the attention of the mob.

Re:Chris Poole by comrh on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:29PM (#10268371)
> This is important because with a history, you open yourself up to attacks.

Which is why I set up a script a few months ago to delete my account history every month. The amount of doxing I saw on reddit made me nervous.

Re:Chris Poole by flashman on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @07:32PM (#10268977)
This has limited utility since people are archiving comments in real time and uploading them to Big Query https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9869871

Here's the realtime comments feed - add .xml, .json or .rss to change the format: https://www.reddit.com/comments

Re:Chris Poole by letstryagain on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @10:06PM (#10269445)
I change my username every few months
Re:Chris Poole by marincounty on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:43PM (#10268454)
Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money?

I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes?

They build it, and people came. People opened their mouths, and confirmed all doubt?

Re:Chris Poole by eertami on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @06:34PM (#10268713)
>Does Reddit pay you for moderation?

There are enough people that see moderating a subreddit as a source of power that they simply don't have to, new mods would always be available for free.

>It's not like they don't have throw around money?

Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.

Re:Chris Poole by mahouse on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @07:35PM (#10268985)
>Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.

I don't see the correlation.

Re:Chris Poole by deftnerd on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @08:14PM (#10269135)
You can't pay people token sums to moderate or they can sue you and demand proper wages and benefits.

The same thing happened to AOL's old chat rooms back in the 90's and early 2000's.

http://priceonomics.com/the-aol-chat-room-monitor-revolt/

Re:Chris Poole by janny_throwaway on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:53PM (#10268515)
They do it for free :^)
Re:Chris Poole by hcon on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @07:18PM (#10268915)
Ending statements with question marks doesn't make them less committal, so just end them with periods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNIBV87wV4

Re:Chris Poole by ljk on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @06:09PM (#10268598)
> I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay.

Probably not a good idea considering the drama and mod abuse that's happened in the past...

Re:Chris Poole by pjc50 on Thursday September 24, 2015 @05:47AM (#10270704)
They'll still figure out who you are and harass you. It's an added dynamic that just doesn't exist with moderation on 4chan

No, 4chan just generates and targets harassment against other identifiable people instead, including those not on 4chan, and the moderators are complicit in this harassment by not removing threads organizing it.