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Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by tptacek on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @07:19PM (#10262383)
That's probably not even close to true. Without wading into the morass of what an "idea" is, a boilerplate employee agreement might list things like:

technical information, methods, processes, formulae, compositions, systems, techniques, inventions, machines, computer programs, research, business information, customer lists, pricing data, sources of supply, financial data, and marketing, production, or merchandising systems or plans

If your employer is working with a concept or idea and can tangibly tie it to anything like these (or any of a similar list of "artifacts") that employees had access to, then it's very dangerous for employees to start their own firms based on those concepts or ideas.

(I have no idea what's going on with Smule/Shred! Shred sounds very credible right now.)

Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by aidenn0 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @07:24PM (#10262414)
All of those are more tangible than "ideas."

IANAL, but here's an example:

"It would be cool to make an app that does X" <-- not likely protected

"Our marketing research shows that there is a $3B market for an app that does X" <-- likely protected, but needs some requirements to be a trade secret.

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Also, many states allow enforcement of non-compete agreements, and in some cases that may include areas the company is planning on entering at the time of your employ.

Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by tptacek on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @07:30PM (#10262448)
Almost all states enforce noncompetes, not that it's clear to me what noncompetes have to do with this.

I think you should talk to a lawyer before making assessments about how unlikely it is something is to be protected. Generally: safest course is to assume it is protectable.

I talked to a lawyer before starting this company and I was very surprised by how many pitfalls I hadn't even considered.

Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by brianpgordon on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @10:28PM (#10263021)
California doesn't enforce noncompetes, which is what matters in this case.
Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by tptacek on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @09:32AM (#10264867)
Did I miss where this was a non-compete case? I thought the accusation was IP theft.
Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by debacle on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @09:26AM (#10264837)
California does enforce non-compete agreements, there are just restrictions.
Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by thoman23 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @07:27PM (#10262430)
@aidenn0 > "Our marketing research shows that there is a $3B market for an app that does X" <-- likely protected. ----- I don't see how even that would or should be protected.
Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by aidenn0 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @07:28PM (#10262441)
Covered under "business information" in the boilerplate that tptacek posted.
Re:When Your Former Boss Sues You for Starting a Startup by mikeshreds on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @07:31PM (#10262455)
Yes, in legalese those would be considered trade secrets. Tellingly, Smule did not name "theft of trade secrets" as a claim in their lawsuit.