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Re:To hack an Android phone, just type in a really long pass... by ajross on Monday September 21, 2015 @11:45AM (#10253030)
> Security is hard. Really profoundly hard, not just superficially hard.

Indeed. There is an army of naked celebrities dancing around the internet today because of an "iOS" hole that didn't even involve the device OS at all.

Picking on specific features to announce "Apple is more secure" is very much missing the point.

That said, yeah: I'm not a big fan of Android's security architecture either, though it has been improving rapidly.

Re:To hack an Android phone, just type in a really long pass... by jtriangle on Monday September 21, 2015 @02:34PM (#10254236)
> though it has been improving rapidly.

This is an important factor, and maybe the fatal flaw in android's carrier relationships. Google is always very fast to push a fix out, but the carriers always drag their feet in getting the fix to the actual devices.

Re:To hack an Android phone, just type in a really long pass... by ajross on Monday September 21, 2015 @03:19PM (#10254518)
It's really not. We're talking about security architecture here (which rolls out only with OS releases) and not security bugs (which get rapid patches on all but the most negligent of OEM devices).

Having a better security architecture works (to stretch the metaphor) like immunization: past a certain adoption level you reach a "herd immunity" state where the marginal benefit to an attacker of a specific flaw drops rapidly to zero even though there are still "old" devices out there in the market in small numbers.

Basically, the market refresh cycle is still at something like 18 months, so even given that OEMs are slow new Android releases are reaching the public in large numbers fairly promptly.

Re:To hack an Android phone, just type in a really long pass... by jtriangle on Monday September 21, 2015 @09:22PM (#10256146)
That is actually a great point, hardware refresh is such that updates get performed regularly. Also, this exploit requires hardware access to the phone, which is generally considered game over in any respect.

It would be beneficial if carriers could come up with updates faster however. I've seen Verizon drag its feet on more than one occasion, especially with phones that are a generation or two behind.

Re:To hack an Android phone, just type in a really long pass... by alanh on Monday September 21, 2015 @05:40PM (#10255320)
> There is an army of naked celebrities dancing around the internet today because of an "iOS" hole that didn't even involve the device OS at all.

Are you referring to the year-ago iCloud “hacks” or is there a really surprising twist to the whole XCode Ghost thing that I haven’t heard about? :)