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Re:Why I wouldn’t use Rails for a new company by dragonwriter on Thursday September 17, 2015 @06:19PM (#10236435)
> > Some people will point to language design characteristics, which are part of the story, but I think the deeper reason is that ruby does not have a serious corporate sponsor.

> Spot on. Biggest reason why I don't think Ruby/Python will grow bigger than what they are today is this.

While no major corporate sponsors may be the case for Ruby, its not for Python:

https://www.python.org/psf/members/#sponsor-members

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Re:Why I wouldn’t use Rails for a new company by edwinnathaniel on Friday September 18, 2015 @03:27AM (#10237914)
I don't know what those sponsors do but I don't see any advancement in the Python world to be honest.

None of these companies decided one day to write the Spring Framework for Python (or the Rails). We got Django that seems stuck in 2005-2009... (no offense to Django devs).

Python runtime hasn't changed much...

Meanwhile in NodeJS land: - GoDaddy decided to re-write stuff using NodeJS - eBay adopting NodeJS in increasing pace - Progress (.com), legacy software company acquired modulus.io (NodeJS shop) - IBM z Systems supports NodeJS - Go to Microsoft Learning, you'll find lots of JavaScript tutorials (NodeJS or WinJS or Angular)

These companies promote NodeJS up-front. When Microsoft decided to hire people behind IronRuby and IronPython, I thought they decided to adopt those languages but that didn't last long before they cut them loose...

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Re:Why I wouldn’t use Rails for a new company by dragonwriter on Friday September 18, 2015 @12:24PM (#10240090)
> Go to Microsoft Learning, you'll find lots of JavaScript tutorials (NodeJS or WinJS or Angular)

And also quite a bit of Python, including general language courses, Django, Python/Flask/SQL, Python w/MongoDB, etc.

> When Microsoft decided to hire people behind IronRuby and IronPython, I thought they decided to adopt those languages but that didn't last long before they cut them loose...

Microsoft is still a significant backer of Python, not just a PSF sponsor, but also directly employing Python core devs, and doing a lot of direct support for Python. [0]

IronPython and IronRuby weren't Microsoft adopting the Ruby and Python languaegs, they were efforts to alternatives to the core implementations of those languages tied to the .NET platform.

[0] See, e.g., http://pycon.blogspot.com/2015/03/for-microsoft-python-suppo...

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