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Re:Why WhatsApp Only Needs 50 Engineers for Its 900M Users by DanielBMarkham on Wednesday September 16, 2015 @06:45AM (#10225714)
(Disclaimer: I teach this stuff) Good article. It's a keeper. Touches on a lot of things I've been telling clients for years.

My takeaways:

- Pure functions in little composable pieces. Screw the fact you can't find programmers. With 1/20th the staff, it's not important

- Zero to few meetings. Keep focused on one thing. No playing around with WhizzBang Platform 7.0 because all the cool kids are using it. Mind your knitting.

- Keep It Simple, Stupid. Engineers are our own worst enemy. Solve the most simple problem possible. Then add complexity a little bit at a time, only as a last resort. For those of you saying "But messaging is solved", "Erlang was written for messaging", and so forth, this is where you missed. Any complex system (with a few notable exceptions) will look very simple when solved in this manner. In fact, that's the entire point.

- Running and deploying are the same thing. CI/CD. There is no Big Red Button to push because we're always working on the airplane engines while the plane is flying

Coming from a traditional OOA/D/P background, this mentality was extremely foreign to me. Even though I was using and talking about TDD, it was still in terms of composing and re-arranging object graphs. It wasn't until I got into F# several years ago that the pieces started coming together. This is a very difficult conceptual leap to make, because a lot of the ways you work looks completely ass-backwards to folks who are used to doing it the other way.

Re:Why WhatsApp Only Needs 50 Engineers for Its 900M Users by throwaway437812 on Wednesday September 16, 2015 @06:04PM (#10230225)
Could you elaborate what is is that F# taught you, and how it changed the way you work?
Re:Why WhatsApp Only Needs 50 Engineers for Its 900M Users by DanielBMarkham on Thursday September 17, 2015 @07:03AM (#10232625)
I realize you're using a throwaway account, but this is really more like an essay, not a HN comment (cue up snarky observations about the length of my comments). There were four or five things that all came together at the same time for me: lean startup, functional programming, TDD, and static page web programming.

If you're interested, my contact details are in my profile. Happy to have a call/Skype. It's an important topic.

Re:Why WhatsApp Only Needs 50 Engineers for Its 900M Users by baronseng on Friday September 18, 2015 @01:08AM (#10237564)
maybe a blog post and post it on hn?