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Re:Welcome to HN: A refresher course on how to disagree... ... by chrischen on Tuesday December 29, 2009 @06:17PM (#1021548)
Perhaps it's okay to use the up/down arrows to express agreement/disagreement, but then the ranking of comments can only be seen as an indicator of popular comments, not necessarily thoughtful, quality ones.

That's the inherent issue here. It's that the arrows used to represent quality in theory are actually used in practice to indicate agreement. And then with the down voting, you effectively have a system of negative reinforcement because your comments are being downvoted because you're a dissenter, but interpreted as a sign of bad quality and discouraged to speak further. It's interpreted as a sign of bad quality because all the signs say so. You get grayed out if it's too negative and your comment gets pushed to the bottom. Perhaps you'll become alienated and leave the community, making the HN community slightly more homogenous.

I agree with you in that it's a good idea to allow people to indicate their agreement and disagreement, but to have it clearly defined as an indicator of popularity.

Re:Welcome to HN: A refresher course on how to disagree... ... by kburn on Wednesday December 30, 2009 @11:30PM (#1023808)
I think that it also seems to "taint" an entire thread the same as "leper unclean!". Especially when I see an entire thread of negative scores, I know that somebody has a chip on their shoulder for whoever steps in that turf they've decided to police. Participating in that thread is the same as a guaranteed downmod.