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Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by TeMPOraL on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @07:15PM (#10195287)
> It's marketing. And when it comes to marketing its far more true than that Lynx will get you laid (lol), or that some new detergent will revolutionaze how clean your clothes are, or that some GAP clothes will make you part of the "in" crowd.

Yes. It's marketing - the magic context in which we suspend our disbelief and let people lie to our faces, and we then applaud and pay them.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by stouset on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @07:45PM (#10195375)
You confuse advertising and marketing.

Marketing is the process of figuring out who a product is for and how to get them to want to buy it (through channels like engineering, design, and yes, advertising). Apple being an excellent marketing company isn't a slur — it's an incredible complement. They absolutely excel at understanding who their target audience is, building devices that appeal to that audience, and advertising to ensure that audience is aware of how those devices address needs they may not have even known they had.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by Spivak on Thursday September 10, 2015 @11:21AM (#10198592)
Eight, let's not try to twist words here. Apple is great at marketing but I don't think that was person's intended meaning. He means that Apple is good at manipulating people.

They make okay products (in absolute terms, not implying that anything is better) and would not have their completely rabid following did they not manipulate people into buying into their status, lifestyle, and that they're more valuable than their worth.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by coldtea on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @08:18PM (#10195488)
Do we really "suspend our disbelief"? I don't think we're naive 50s tv viewers in this day and age.

If anything gets us is not us believing the ad, but just getting pumped with the nice visuals and subtle suggestions (so more subsconscius manipulation than convincing us).

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by TeMPOraL on Thursday September 10, 2015 @07:53AM (#10197490)
The question is, why do we allow it? If you took the behaviour that is standard-pracitce for marketers and journalists and tried that with a friend, you'd get punched in the face. Somehow we shielded a few areas of our lives (like advertising, journalism, politics) and decided that it's ok to be deceitful in those areas.