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Re:Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt by josteink on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @04:40AM (#10184615)
> So who cares if you write your email in text mode but browse the web with Chrome/Firefox?

On a server owned by somebody else, which the US government can fully spy on, seize and lock down at a whim.

Now try that with a privately owned and administered server.

Re:Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt by DanBC on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @04:44AM (#10184627)
You think the US government doesn't have full access to your private server? If it's located within the US they have full physical access. If it's located outside the US it's a valid target for all the TLAs.

If the government is on your list of threats you need a lot more than "private mail server".

Re:Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt by josteink on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @04:51AM (#10184648)
> If it's located within the US they have full physical access.

If I were to live in the US, I would know when my server went missing. With Google or other cloud-providers they can do it behind your back.

> If it's located outside the US it's a valid target for all the TLAs.

And then can't seize it. It's physically secure. It may not be bullet-proof security-wise (what is?) but they can't rubber-stamp their way into it.

And for some people that's quite an important aspect.

Re:Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt by dijit on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @06:03AM (#10184824)
Amen, this whole "if it's not 100% secure why bother" argument is annoying, we can still make it hard for them.

We can, and we definitely should.

Re:Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt by DanBC on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @06:04AM (#10184825)
It makes it easier for them.
Re:Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt by dijit on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @07:37AM (#10185084)
what does? housing mail outside the US? outside of their partner companies or previously breached companies (in the case of google).

I mean, if you have a remote server- it's lawful for them to snoop (by their own law), but it certainly makes it harder, to gain access and maintain access- as these systems may be wildly different and hosts will be varying degrees of paranoid.