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Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by seibelj on Monday September 07, 2015 @10:55PM (#10183972)
You mean writing a series of logical instructions in order to solve problems is tedious? I wonder what future platform will be created that doesn't require an ordered series of logical steps to solve problems...
Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by easter6 on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @04:51PM (#10188155)
Well, even today there are computing devices that don't require an ordered series of logical steps (in the form of program code) to solve problems. So you don't need to wonder about it. The future is already here.

However, there could one day be a means to easily implement algorithms in hardware.

To clarify, I'm not thinking of ASICs or FPGA's, which of course already exist and have for quite some time. Neither are very 'easy', and the expense is real.

Just out of curiousity, do you honestly believe that the way we've been getting computers to 'do things' is never going to change?

Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @02:59PM (#10193471)
> Well, even today there are computing devices that don't require an ordered series of logical steps (in the form of program code) to solve problems. So you don't need to wonder about it. The future is already here.

Could you give us some details about what you are talking about here, so that we don't have to play guessing games?

Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by dman on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @05:02PM (#10188192)
I am curious about what career you chose.
Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by easter6 on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @05:13PM (#10188233)
I'm curious why you think things can never change. Maybe you can't imagine anything different. That's OK, other people will drag you into the future.
Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by dman on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @08:00PM (#10188901)
I am at an utter loss to understand what made you draw the conclusion that I am anti change based on my comments in this thread.
Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by easter6 on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @02:51PM (#10193399)
yeah, my bad. thought you were the guy above me. Apologies.

As for the career I chose, you can assume it wasn't anything to do with computers, lol. (Although I almost went the Cognitive Science/Computer Science route back in my younger days, before realizing I wasn't nerdy enough!)

Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by dman on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @04:06PM (#10194155)
I think you underestimated your nerdiness back then. Here you are all those years later responding passionately in a thread on rescuing programming from the von neumann style.
Re:Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? ... by easter6 on Friday September 11, 2015 @09:06AM (#10203423)
Well if nobody is passionate about it, nothing will change. I'm sure I look like a fool for it, but someone has to.. might as well be me! :)

My interest in AI and computer architectures never went away.. I just decided not to turn certain interests into a career, and walked away from the chance to be gainfully employed as a programmer. At the time I felt there had to be a 'better way', and I've been trying to come up with that 'better way' ever since.

I'm probably somewhat bitter that my research (probably) won't get translated into something physically tangible and complete, as I'm running out of time. Cancer is unkind that way.

It's entirely possible that I've been chasing a pipe dream all these years though, and while that would be a shame I'm realistic enough to entertain that notion. I've already accepted death, so at this point I can accept this, too. But of course I don't really believe that is the case here. ;)