Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by rusbus on Sunday September 06, 2015 @03:19PM
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Given how hard it is to determine what is actually causing high load sometimes I'm surprised we haven't evolved more easily actionable metrics.
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Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by mjevans on Sunday September 06, 2015 @04:01PM
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You mean like per process time spent active on a CPU?
You could poll that ever so often and log the results to a database if you actually cared; but the act of measuring changes the results...
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by dmit on Sunday September 06, 2015 @04:22PM
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Or as Bryan Cantrill put it:
When you're in top, what's the top process?
top!
"Hey man, good news, I've found the problem!
I'm the problem!!
Who would've thought that?!
Don't run me!"
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by plorkyeran on Sunday September 06, 2015 @05:17PM
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taskman.exe is the one exception to this that I've seen, which I've wondered about ever since I switched over to non-Windows platforms. Is there something about NT that makes performance metrics unusually cheap, or is it just "lying" and not reporting that time anywhere?
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by jrapdx3 on Sunday September 06, 2015 @06:29PM
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That's curious. Running Win8.1 and Task Manager lists Task Manager with subprocess Task Manager, anyway, using variably 0 to ~1.0% CPU, 0.3% memory. How "truthful" these stats are, well I guess that's another question altogether...
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by jandrese on Sunday September 06, 2015 @09:00PM
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Taskman sorts differently. Top sorts by the most recent active process, while taskman sorts by the process that has used the most CPU on average lately.
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by johnmaguire2013 on Monday September 07, 2015 @04:33AM
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You can choose what to sort by in both.
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by rusbus on Sunday September 06, 2015 @06:27PM
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I mean finding the actual cause of a high load number. There's no way to break it down by process, or even find out if it's because of IO or network, etc. without using other tools.
Re:When the Unix load average was added to Unix
by Bonogongo on Monday September 07, 2015 @03:22AM
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Fellow poor soul, over the last 10 years whenever a server has high load I've got angry about the fact that load avg is not actionable, and exactly that "or even find out if it's because of IO or network"