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Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by riffraff on Friday September 04, 2015 @01:29AM (#10168951)
which cities in Italy/Europe you consider to have a very square, ordinary layout?

Off the top of my head I cannot think of a single city with a square structure, or where castrum and decuman still exist[0].

[0] i.e. Manchester https://www.google.hu/maps/place/Manchester,+UK/@53.479099,-... does not look square at all, even though the "-chester" part derives from "castrum" and there is something resembling a cross in part of it.

Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by VMG on Friday September 04, 2015 @04:52AM (#10169369)
I agree, it's the exception

Mannheim comes to mind: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/49.4877/8.4640

Karlsruhe is listed as an example in the Book, although considerably less regular than most US cities I've been to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/62518#map=15/49.0064/8...

Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by LoSboccacc on Friday September 04, 2015 @06:21AM (#10169598)
Piacenza has the roman squared city center intact in layout[1], lots of other small towns as well, but the fact is the old town parts are likely too small to actually matter when you look at the whole city layout - hard to notice from just looking at the urban map!

then you have places like Turin that were built with a ruler [2]

https://www.google.it/maps/place/Via+Camillo+Benso+Cavour,+3...

https://www.google.it/maps/place/Turin,+Metropolitan+City+of...

edit: some more samples, with cardo/decumano marked when known

naples https://www.google.it/maps/place/Naples,+Metropolitan+City+o...

parma (barely visible, linked plaza was the old forum) https://www.google.it/maps/place/Piazza+Giuseppe+Garibaldi,+...

verona https://www.google.it/maps/place/Via+Rosa,+7,+37121+Verona+V...

firenze, you can even see the old walls

https://www.google.it/maps/place/Piazza+della+Repubblica,+10...

Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by riffraff on Friday September 04, 2015 @11:27AM (#10171057)
you are probably right, the old town parts probably get lost in the largest map.

But as far as I know naples is not even a roman city, so I don't know what is going on there :)

Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by LoSboccacc on Friday September 04, 2015 @04:20PM (#10172678)
my bad, I mixed up generic squared block in cities (turin, naples) with old roman squared blocks arrangements that survived today (the others)
Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by yread on Friday September 04, 2015 @03:41AM (#10169199)
I'm not sure if it has anything to do with Romans, but look at La Valetta, Malta: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Valletta,+Malta/@35.899060...
Re:The SimCity Planning Commission Handbook by masklinn on Friday September 04, 2015 @04:34AM (#10169324)
La Valetta is a planned fortified city built by Francisco Laparelli[0] for the Order of St John in the 16th century.

Nothing to do with the romans, or with normal maltese city architecture (which is much more organic)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Laparelli