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Re:New MIPS64-based Loongson processors break performance ba... by lallysingh on Thursday September 03, 2015 @01:39PM (#10166356)
So let's not forget the larger impact here:

- It's a CPU architecture who's primary R&D&Fab is outside the US, and in fact in China.

- As people move to mobile, they could just as easily to Longsoon over ARM.

- Hey, guess where there's a giant mobile market?

Separately, can these run Irix? I miss Irix.

Re:New MIPS64-based Loongson processors break performance ba... by photosinensis on Thursday September 03, 2015 @01:58PM (#10166507)
They might be able to run Irix. But why would you use an operating system that hasn't been updated in 9 years? It's not going to have sufficient crypto support to be useful.

That said, the smartphone market in China has been dominated by ARM chips. The real question is whether there's enough market demand for a MIPS-based architecture right now, or if the Chinese government can drive demand away from ARM and towards MIPS.

Re:New MIPS64-based Loongson processors break performance ba... by yellowapple on Thursday September 03, 2015 @03:16PM (#10166954)
> But why would you use an operating system that hasn't been updated in 9 years?

The same reason why people still run Apple ][s and Commodore 64s and old DOS machines: nostalgia.

I mean, if I were to try and build myself a real Jurassic Park workstation, it would be a disservice for it to be running Linux on an x86. No, I want the real deal: IRIX on MIPS, complete with an animated Nedry confronting unauthorized users with "Ah ah ah! You didn't say the magic word! Ah ah ah!".

And yes, I'm aware of jurassicsystems.com, but it just doesn't feel the same. It also doesn't have `fsn`, so I can't zoom around my filesystem in 3-D while muttering that "it's a UNIX system; I know this!".

Re:New MIPS64-based Loongson processors break performance ba... by lallysingh on Thursday September 03, 2015 @05:28PM (#10167627)
Just to see Irix again.

For driving demand, they could always have tariffs, etc. If they applied to companies manufacturing computers in China, that'd have a massive impact globally.

Re:New MIPS64-based Loongson processors break performance ba... by spitfire on Thursday September 03, 2015 @03:59PM (#10167172)
Those were my first thoughts too...

Specifically China is pulling a Toyota here. Coming in on the low end where "It doesn't matter".

Re:New MIPS64-based Loongson processors break performance ba... by hga on Thursday September 03, 2015 @04:18PM (#10167285)
This is "the low end of 64 bit CPUs", though, MIPS is already competitive, along with ARM, in low end 32 bit CPUs, and Intel's still in that space along with I don't know who else.

So what's worth the jump to 64 bits? And note Loongson/MIPS has competition from ARM as well (aren't their 64 bit ARM cores in iPhones now?), and maybe RISC-V, they're working on an out-of-order microarchtecture now (it's an open core, $0 IP to use).